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    • shyevsaS
      shyevsa Member @Jon Mitchell
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      @jon-mitchell that's nice idea there. the whole vote can be made secret and only JNC knew how much. and from there they can know how much they willing to spend on the license too.

      however considering how much people vote on the license suggestion sub-forum I think the amount would be too small to make it works.

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        Jon Mitchell Premium Member @shyevsa
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        @shyevsa

        not secret, that's the power of influence....(you don't need to say WHO voted for what but that title X has 27 premium votes and title Y has 53 might make people take a look at title Y more...)

        there could be a quasi-formal 'election'

        "which of these 10 titles do you most want to see translated? would you buy copies or just read the pre-pubs?" voting with credits has more weight than just a survey.

        of course Sam might not want to show his hand (i.e. revealing 10 titles that he is considering) or it might be considered rude in publishing circles (I really don't know, but I deal with RFP's for projects all the time where customers basically do this exact thing)

        I read banned books

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          the green death
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          I see that this could happen moreso in the case of single volumes. Something like the Mari Okada (sp?) bio perhaps could have been done this way, but a series? That would be tough.

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            Terrence Premium Member @Raitoiro
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            @raitoiro said in Would you pre-pay extra to get a favorite title added to JNC?:

            That said Sol press do quick starter for VN so it may not be impossible.

            Even Sol Press' Kickstarter project sounds like it was already licensed / will happen no matter what happens with the Kickstarter. If it fails, it's probably still happening, albeit maybe slower.

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              Thomask Premium Member @Rahul Balaggan
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              @rahul-balaggan

              For some reason I think one of the other publishers (Sol?) are doing it this way... Kickstarter or equivalent to get a series up and running.

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              • Rahul BalagganR
                Rahul Balaggan Staff @Thomask
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                @thomask not for LNs, they do that for VNs.

                For all their LN licenses they have had to do just that, license it announce a sale date and sell it. (Although they have been doing a really bad job with all steps after license it)

                They did say that if they sell a certain number of digital editions they will do a physical release, although the speed at which they announced Battle Divas and strongest gamer physical makes me think that it was all just a publicity stunt to make more people buy the digital and then double dip and get the physical edition, and that they had the physical rights from the getgo.

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                  Thomask Premium Member @Rahul Balaggan
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                  @rahul-balaggan said in Would you pre-pay extra to get a favorite title added to JNC?:

                  @thomask not for LNs, they do that for VNs.

                  For all their LN licenses they have had to do just that, license it announce a sale date and sell it. (Although they have been doing a really bad job with all steps after license it)

                  They did say that if they sell a certain number of digital editions they will do a physical release, although the speed at which they announced Battle Divas and strongest gamer physical makes me think that it was all just a publicity stunt to make more people buy the digital and then double dip and get the physical edition, and that they had the physical rights from the getgo.

                  Makes sense then, I can see how that would be beneficial.

                  Maybe it’s my confusion that others are having too?

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                    Thomask Premium Member @HarmlessDave
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                    @harmlessdave

                    Do we know how many prospective sales JNC has to know they’d make before it becomes worth while in licensing something?

                    Put aside if it’s possible or not (already licenced, wrong COO, difficult authors etc)

                    My problem with it is how would they make the choice? I mean I’d toss in extra for probably a dozen series, while wanting say Legendary moonlight Scultpor and Magi Grandson be at the top and others to be at the bottom, hows that fair from the others who have a list that are opposite to mine and how does JNC decide?

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                      stardf29 Premium Member @Thomask
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                      @thomask The number of prospective sales for a title to be potentially profitable would vary from title to title, since factors like the license asking price and length of the series would vary.

                      And I think OP is suggesting individual fundraisers for each title, not one fundraiser for a bunch of titles.

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                        HarmlessDave Premium Member @Thomask
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                        @thomask said in Would you pre-pay extra to get a favorite title added to JNC?:

                        Do we know how many prospective sales JNC has to know they’d make before it becomes worth while in licensing something?

                        Nope, and it's probably going to vary from title to tile depending on how much money the Japanese publisher wants for the license. I'd expect the translation cost to also go up a bit for longer novels.

                        Base cost = $x per license + $y to translate (translator, editor, management) + $z for any retailer listing/misc setup costs

                        Digital version break-even = (base cost / gross profit per sale) books sold <=== 7.95 * 70%? for Amazon, etc.

                        My problem with it is how would they make the choice? I mean I’d toss in extra for probably a dozen series, while wanting say Legendary moonlight Scultpor and Magi Grandson be at the top and others to be at the bottom, hows that fair from the others who have a list that are opposite to mine and how does JNC decide?

                        Perhaps they are offered in small enough batches like 1-3 titles at a time, that if they all succeed then they all get worked on.

                        As mentioned by others this kind of project probably won't happen because a publisher won't want the embarrassment of having the attempt fail, so it's more of a "wouldn't this be nice" thread.

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