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    Ashita, Boku wa Shinu. Kimi wa Ikikaeru. (Tomorrow, I will die. You will revive.)

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    • LegitPancakeL
      LegitPancake Premium Member @BloodyGaikotsu
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      @bloodygaikotsu Second Path's Otaku de Neet is pretty funny

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        BloodyGaikotsu @LegitPancake
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        @legitpancake
        That's some paradoxical name
        (I dunno what is weirder, the long LNs titles or the illustrators' name)

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        • DoubleMangekyoD
          DoubleMangekyo
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          @LegitPancake @BloodyGaikotsu
          Otaku de Neet is the author's "name" though...
          The illustrator is Kurodeko.

          My light novel counter (EN & JP) for series published by Yen On / JNC / Seven Seas

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          • CynigamiC
            Cynigami @BloodyGaikotsu
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            @bloodygaikotsu

            Yup that one. I'll probably buy and read it if it ever comes on Bookwalker. It is indeed by the same label as Pancreas, which is definitely not a light novel label. Seven Seas didn't call "I want to eat your pancreas" a light novel either if I recall correctly.

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              BloodyGaikotsu @Cynigami
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              @hak0
              I wonder if there's a term for this kind of books.
              They sound like merge of regular novels and LNs in a way.

              & there's increase of such labels recently
              MediaWorks Bunko
              Kodansha Box
              Futaba
              etc.

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                BloodyGaikotsu @Cynigami
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                @hak0
                I think Shueisha got a similar Bunko label called "Orange Bunko"

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                  BloodyGaikotsu @DoubleMangekyo
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                  @doublemangekyo said in Ashita, Boku wa Shinu. Kimi wa Ikikaeru. (Tomorrow, I will die. You will revive.):

                  Kurodeko

                  Black Forehead?

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                  • myskarosM
                    myskaros Staff
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                    Maybe you guys should move this conversation to a topic other than one that's supposed to be for discussing this book...

                    Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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                    • CynigamiC
                      Cynigami @BloodyGaikotsu
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                      @bloodygaikotsu

                      There is definitely a term for these! In fact there are several. They are called キャラノベル - character novels or ライト文芸 (light bungei) - light literature. There isn't yet a set term for them. I explained the difference between such novels and light novels on reddit before. You should read my explanation ^^

                      Quite a few of the books you have requested here actually belong to this category such as "Mikkakan no Koufuku" and "Hitotsu Hi no Ko no Yuki no Naka". You have also requested a few things that are considered general literature such as "The Tatami Galaxy".

                      Some other popular light bungei labels aside from those you have mentioned are Shinchou Bunkou Nex and Kodansha Taiga. Incidentally those two labels are doing some collab event right now.

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                        BloodyGaikotsu @Cynigami
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                        @hak0
                        It's good to have name (I always call them LN-like novels in my mind lol)

                        @hak0 said in Ashita, Boku wa Shinu. Kimi wa Ikikaeru. (Tomorrow, I will die. You will revive.):

                        Quite a few of the books you have requested here actually belong to this category such as "Mikkakan no Koufuku" and "Hitotsu Hi no Ko no Yuki no Naka". You have also requested a few things that are considered general literature such as "The Tatami Galaxy".

                        Actually, I think I mentioned more non-LN book than LNs lol

                        Like due to the fact that Mari Okada's autobiography is published by Bungeishunjuu, I mentioned a lot of general literature books I wanted:
                        -Kuuchuu Buranko
                        -The Incite Mill
                        -Lesson of the Evil
                        Ofc, they didn't get much attention T_T

                        I think "A Lollypop or A Bullet" is also a general literature book since it's under "Kodakawa Shoten" just like Tatami Galaxy

                        Ah, If I recall correctly
                        "Hitotsu Hi no Ko no Yuki no Naka" was first published by Fantasia Bunko.
                        Nex's version is revised and rewritten version.
                        So, it was a LN first xD?

                        Well, anyways
                        That's enough so that @myskaros doesn't get mad

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                        • CynigamiC
                          Cynigami @BloodyGaikotsu
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                          @bloodygaikotsu

                          So, it was a LN first xD?

                          Well I can think of a few LNs that would be published as light bungei if they were published today. Such labels only became popular in the last few years.

                          I think "A Lollypop or A Bullet" is also a general literature book

                          It was a LN first but due to its popularity republished as general literature I believe.

                          Ofc, they didn't get much attention T_T

                          Well that is not surprising considering J-NC is a light novel publisher and most people are here for light novels. Even your light bungei requests didn't receive much attention. It just proves they have a different target audience though ^^

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                            BloodyGaikotsu @Cynigami
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                            @hak0
                            Actually, any novel with no anime or isekai or fantasy didn't get much attention lol

                            Like Isekai + Romcom is more popular than ol' plain Romcom lol
                            (Couldn't sell "Shinonome Yuuko Series" or "Jisatsu Suru ni wa Mukanai Kisetsu" either)

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                              BloodyGaikotsu @Cynigami
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                              @hak0 said in Ashita, Boku wa Shinu. Kimi wa Ikikaeru. (Tomorrow, I will die. You will revive.):

                              Well I can think of a few LNs that would be published as light bungei if they were published today. Such labels only became popular in the last few years.

                              First title comes to mind would be "Hakomari", I guess
                              That's why Eiji might be better off at Taiga

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                              • CynigamiC
                                Cynigami @BloodyGaikotsu
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                                @bloodygaikotsu

                                I was actually just writing a reply to your first reply where I mentioned Eiji Mikage lol. I'll merge them then :

                                Yeah well Isekai is quite popular today. Isekai/magic school, harem and romcom make up the vast majority of light novels. Genres like mystery, sci-fi (especially hard sci-fi) and horror have never been light novel genres. That is why it is so hard to find light novels of those genres ^^

                                I bet it is because they just don't lend themselves that well to "fun stories" which is what light novels are usually supposed to be. Of course there are exceptions. Like everything Eiji Mikage writes. Perhaps that is why they never sell.

                                On that note, his latest book - the one published in Taiga is actually selling well.

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                                  BloodyGaikotsu @Cynigami
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                                  @hak0
                                  I think I read more drama and not-all-fun-and-games LNs tho
                                  I think Oregairu, Kimi to Boku no Uta World's End (is this one even a LN?) and Gekkou are first LNs

                                  Actually, I was just trying to trace these novels history in mind
                                  and I tried to imagine the guy in Kodansha Novels who decided to give Anime-type illustration to a Mephisto winner (Zareogoto 1)

                                  It's, definitely, Katsushi Ota who started this (unawares lol) by making Faust and Kodansha Box.

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                                  • CynigamiC
                                    Cynigami @BloodyGaikotsu
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                                    @bloodygaikotsu Yeah but you are actively choosing such LNs, just like I do. They are still definitely a minority.

                                    Kimi to Boku no Uta World's End

                                    Published by Dengeki I think. So it would be a LN.

                                    It's, definitely, Katsushi Ota who started this (unawares lol) by making Faust and Kodansha Box.

                                    Perhaps. I wouldn't even call everything Kodansha Box publishes belongs to this category. Monogatari for example definitively targets the same audience as light novels. Also the list on light bungei's wiki page doesn't list Kodansha Box as a light bungei label : https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ライト文芸

                                    I would say it was Biblia that made the term popular at least.

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                                      BloodyGaikotsu @Cynigami
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                                      @hak0
                                      So they listed Kodansha LIGHTNOVEL but not Box lol
                                      Well, Box doesn't only publish novels anyways but manga and criticisms

                                      Funny thing that I always thought that Biblia is a Dengeki title, only recently that I noticed it belongs to MediaWorks

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                                        BloodyGaikotsu @Cynigami
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                                        @hak0 said in Ashita, Boku wa Shinu. Kimi wa Ikikaeru. (Tomorrow, I will die. You will revive.):

                                        Monogatari for example definitively targets the same audience as light novels.

                                        Actually, Bakemonogatari started at Mephisto before being serialized in Pandora.

                                        So, it still stands in this iffy place, where you can't categorize it easily.

                                        Also, I heard it's originally meant as general literature written in his free time.

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                                        • CynigamiC
                                          Cynigami @BloodyGaikotsu
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                                          @bloodygaikotsu

                                          Monogatari series became more light novel like and less general literature like at one point imo ^^ But yeah most of Nisio Isin's books are hard to categorize.

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                                            BloodyGaikotsu @Cynigami
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                                            @hak0
                                            Actually, I think that 1st season books aside from Bake were more like LNs but 2nd and Final season are closer to general literature than LNs <More like the novels after Nise have a lot of character study elements that we don't see much in LNs>

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