Kaifuku Jutsushi Yarinaoshi (Redo of Healer) from the Author of Dungeon Builder: The Demon King’s Labyrinth is a Modern City!

[shrike_al]

@zing The article regarding its announcement has been posted on ANN. So it is official.

I understand the appeal of this series. I read the WN too and it really is appealing as a guilty pleasure. But adapting it into an anime? I REALLY think that's a bad idea. But if they kept it as an OVA, then it still might be okay, I guess?

[Zing]

@shrike_al Well, I be damned, it really is happening.
Few weeks ago I read about anime song competition for A Harem in the Fantasy World Dungeon and people started speculating that we might get adaptation for that series.
I like that Japanese anime industry is getting bolder and bolder. SJW's are going to have a field day with this one, I mean, they already freaked out by Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer :D

[Wellwisher]

It's not about SJW stuff, really. It's just that Redo is a crap novel with a crap concept and crap development. (Slave harem is even worse in that regard, btw)

[CaramelWithoutTheSalt]

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[Zing]

@caramelwithoutthesalt honestly, I think it's just click bait.

@wellwisher Dunno about it being crap or not, it's different and I like it. In my opinion the story is actually quite good with decent world building. The only thing that sucks is that main characters power seems to be omnipotent, or too flexible at times. I guess we should agree to disagree on this matter and leave each other to their own devices.

[Raitoiro]

The novel is quite boring, but I'm really interested to see how they adapt such a controversial title.
Also reading through butt hurt sjw comments and angry edge lord responses is gonna be a blast.

[TheRedJet]

Cover for Vol.7 releasing December 1st and Anime Key Visual with PV Trailer

[CaramelWithoutTheSalt]

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[yumenokage]

This is the sort of thing that I never want to see on JNC and would absolutely ruin my positive feelings for the company if they licensed it. I'll roll my eyes at some of the harems personally but don't really care about their existence in the end, but something that is built around the MC raping tons of people and trying to justify it as revenge (and even just random people from what others have said) is a stain on society that a respectable publisher should never facilitate.

[Raitoiro]

@yumenokage That kinda stupid, I mean I too wouldn't want it to be licensed cause it's a boring series. But calling for it to be censored is ridiculous.

[myskaros]

@raitoiro Not wanting a publisher to pick up a book is not censorship, it's voting with your wallet.

[Raitoiro]

@myskaros I was speaking about that part
"but something that is built around the MC raping tons of people and trying to justify it as revenge (and even just random people from what others have said) is a stain on society that a respectable publisher should never facilitate."
Which go beyond voting with your wallet

[saffire]

It's still not censorship though.

[myskaros]

@raitoiro That is not censorship, censorship is changing the contents because of third-party influence. Calling a publisher disrespectable is not censorship, it's just expressing your opinion.

[Raitoiro]

@myskaros Censorship is not just that, it's also making it so people can't have access to a content.

Saying that you won't buy something if it happen to be published, is voting with you're wallet.
Saying that it shouldn't be published, that people who would do it aren't respectable is, calling for censorship. A mild attempt for sure but, I do think that it fall under the definition, it's a similar situation to when people ask for a show to not be broadcast anymore cause they think it's morally bad. 0

[Rahul Balaggan]

Let's all save the what is censorship discussion for another topic, as for now this series is not licensed by any company so the whole vote with your wallet is a non-issue

[myskaros]

@raitoiro said in Kaifuku Jutsushi Yarinaoshi (Redo of Healer) from the Author of Demon King's Town Planning! The Strongest Dungeon is a Modern City:

Censorship is not just that, it's also making it so people can't have access to a content.

No, that's just not giving people access to content.

Frankly, you're out of line using an incredibly charged word like "censorship" to describe what's going on here. Killing journalists for reporting inconvenient news is censorship. Punishing people through violence for taking political action is censorship. Changing or removing content from media in order to appease a committee or appeal to a specific audience is censorship.

Someone on the Internet making a one-off comment about how they don't like a certain work and it would reflect poorly on their own personal opinion if said work were licensed? That is not censorship, any more than someone telling you not to watch a movie on Netflix because you might feel squicky is censorship.

And if you're going to argue for a technicality, please, stop. Like I said, "censorship" is an incredibly charged word, and if you're not aware of the implications of accusing someone of advocating for censorship, then just take my word for it that it's not OK to accuse people of it here and it's a borderline personal attack.

[yumenokage]

(Edit: @Rahul-Balaggan I didn't see your comment before I posted this since it took me a while to try and write something that would fully clarify my position and the conversation hadn't progressed so far yet when I started, so sorry if I'm contributing to things getting further out of hand / off-topic by leaving it here, but I'll make this my last comment here and leave it at that.)

@raitoiro You can disagree where the line should be drawn, but what would it say about a publisher if they were fine with providing a platform for, say, something as extreme as a how-to guide to child victimization by a pedophile. (I forget the details since it was from a news story years ago, but this is something that some dude in Florida I think it was actually tried to get published (probably self-published, although I don't remember), although if I remember correctly the effort got shut down by federal or state authorities, and the guy was trying to claim it infringed on his free-speech rights.) Even if it could get it through any legal hurdles, and even if they thought it could generate revenue due to shock value, would you say that there's no problem in the publisher picking it up, and that people would be unjustified in wanting to boycott the publisher as a result because they don't want to associate with anyone who would willingly be involved in such an effort?

Now obviously the above is a much more extreme example, but the principles are similar. A translation/publishing company is free to publish what they want within legal limits, but to say people shouldn't judge them at some point for what they choose to spread and facilitate is, in my opinion, pretty stupid. Especially for a translation company, I feel they share some minimum amount of responsibility for their choices in that regard, especially when the company is as small as this so that it's not like something can just fly in under the radar without most of the top brass so to speak noticing and having a chance to provide input. The point at which one thinks that what a publishing/translation company picks up matters is up to individual interpretation, but I think that line should be drawn at some point or another even if I can't claim to have absolute wisdom on where exactly would be best both ethically and financially. For example, I don't think porn is a good or healthy thing whether or not it depicts and was produced with consent, but if JNC were to start licensing hentai novels I wouldn't necessarily care as long as safeguards such as a separate url or optional "don't show me 18+ material" filter in account settings were put in place so people who want to avoid it don't have to see it or accidentally stumble upon it, but those sorts of licenses might really upset other people and it would be something JNC would probably want to weigh before starting the H-Novel Club that some have proposed. On the other had, I would definitely care if JNC directed their resources towards something like this that has an MC who continuously rapes people and claims that for at least some of them that they deserve it, and it would affect at least to some extent how many JNC licenses I try or follow and whether or not I'd recommend JNC titles and subscriptions to other people.

[Rahul Balaggan]

@yumenokage its all good, at this point I will just open a new topic and shift the comments there.

Just left work so I will do it when I get home

[Zing]

@yumenokage said in Kaifuku Jutsushi Yarinaoshi (Redo of Healer) from the Author of Demon King's Town Planning! The Strongest Dungeon is a Modern City:

For example, I don't think porn is a good or healthy thing whether or not it depicts and was produced with consent, but if JNC were to start licensing hentai novels I wouldn't necessarily care as long as safeguards such as a separate url or optional "don't show me 18+ material" filter in account settings were put in place so people who want to avoid it don't have to see it or accidentally stumble upon it, but those sorts of licenses might really upset other people and it would be something JNC would probably want to weigh before starting the H-Novel Club that some have proposed.

There is already JK Haru, so, what are you going to do about it?

@yumenokage said in Kaifuku Jutsushi Yarinaoshi (Redo of Healer) from the Author of Demon King's Town Planning! The Strongest Dungeon is a Modern City:

but something that is built around the MC raping tons of people and trying to justify it as revenge (and even just random people from what others have said) is a stain on society that a respectable publisher should never facilitate.

Another person talking about a series he has no knowledge about. The amount of people he actually raped can be counted on one hand.