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    • Jon MitchellJ
      Jon Mitchell Premium Member
      last edited by Jon Mitchell

      Prepubs aside (I think it is one of the best features, but opinions vary)

      for $120(USD)/ year you get a dozen credits towards JNC ebooks of your choice- is this a good value
      if all you care about is the cost of ebooks / with the least amount of steps/hassle? The answer might be 'no'

      I don't know how much a kindle title costs where you live, in the USA JNC titles are usually $7-8 on amazon, so unless you jump thru some hoops, it's cheaper to buy on amazon (if you are in a country where the titles cost the equivalent of $10.00 or more on amazon...well your mileage may vary)

      pretty straight forward, no?

      I read banned books

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      • DoubleMangekyoD
        DoubleMangekyo
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        Going by this:
        https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201895820
        VAT for Kindle books in France is 5.5% (I'm assuming you live in France).

        If my calculations are correct (1 kindle ebook costing around $7.37) then:

        (Monthly premium membership + 3 premium credits) < 4 Kindle books
        ($28.95 < $29.48)

        The more ebooks you buy, the bigger the gap becomes.
        For example, to get 12 ebooks it would be: $76.95 (JNC) vs $88.44 (kindle)

        So it's definitely more cost-effective to buy directly from JNC.

        My light novel counter (EN & JP) for series published by Yen On / JNC / Seven Seas

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        • Jon MitchellJ
          Jon Mitchell Premium Member @DoubleMangekyo
          last edited by

          @doublemangekyo

          It can be, if you buy 48+ ebooks a year. That’s a big commitment

          I read banned books

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            jampodevral Premium Member @Jon Mitchell
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            @jon-mitchell It's all a matter of how many JNC series do you like and how many volumes there are. I currently have 110 ebooks from Jnovel and will be buying another 32 (at time of writing) by the end of year. That doesnt even count any of the new series, dont know of they stay interesting enough to continue.

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              CaramelWithoutTheSalt
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              • Jon MitchellJ
                Jon Mitchell Premium Member @CaramelWithoutTheSalt
                last edited by

                @caramelwithoutthesalt

                of course, do what works for you
                the benefits of the membership (in my opinion) are the access to prepubs, and the 'extras' that come with premium ebooks

                you have to buy A LOT per year (around 50) for there to be a purely financial benefit (if all ebooks are purchased)

                I look at it this way however: there are a bunch of series that I follow in pre-pubs alone (I don't buy the ebooks at all, unless the premium extras are really compelling, or I just HAVE to get a volume that isn't on catchup this month)

                I get far more content than would be in two or three ebooks every month- so I am saving at least 30-35% over purchases of ebooks every month

                again, the way I consume isn't for everyone. I like the installment nature of pre-pubs. I like that there is something new in my feed nearly every day. I like that the quantity of new daily content is just about the right amount for two hours of reading enjoyment (which happens to be just about the time I am stuck on a train everyday)

                to me the "cost" of membership is $3.00 (US) a month. $10/month (when paid annually) minus the credit towards a ebook is worth $7 (approx the cost on the kindle store) yields a 'net' cost of $3

                for 3 bucks I get two or three (or more) volumes worth every month in the pre-pubs I follow- to me it's a 'no-brainer'

                but if serial installments of your LN's don't work for your tastes...the 'value' of a premium membership is a tough sell

                I read banned books

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                • DoubleMangekyoD
                  DoubleMangekyo @Jon Mitchell
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                  @jon-mitchell said in i simply do not understand premium membership:

                  you have to buy A LOT per year (around 50) for there to be a purely financial benefit (if all ebooks are purchased)

                  Not really. Even without VAT, buying around 10 JNC premium ebooks per year is saving money. Assuming, of course, the user only cares about getting the premium epubs.

                  If we go with one JNC kindle book = $6.99, then:
                  1 monthly premium + 4 credits = 5 kindle books
                  10.95 + 6x4 = 6.99x5 = $34.95

                  So as long you're buying more than 5 ebooks, you'll save money.

                  My light novel counter (EN & JP) for series published by Yen On / JNC / Seven Seas

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                  • myskarosM
                    myskaros Staff @DoubleMangekyo
                    last edited by

                    @doublemangekyo said in i simply do not understand premium membership:

                    So as long you're buying more than 5 ebooks, you'll save money.

                    Just to add, this is assuming you pay for 1 month of premium, buy a bunch of credits, then cancel the subscription. You can still buy premium e-books without the membership, just takes a bit of a detour.

                    Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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                    • Jon MitchellJ
                      Jon Mitchell Premium Member @DoubleMangekyo
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                      @doublemangekyo

                      we're on the same page - I look at membership annually/ongoing

                      purchase 4 credits/month x12 months = 36 + the 12 included = 48 (around 50)
                      (I'm arguing not to jump through hoops etc, keeping it simple)

                      from a purely financial benefit POV, annual membership isn't a money saver unless you buy around 50 ebooks/year

                      that IS a benefit to some (In my opinion, reading the prepubs I care about every month is worth more than the $3 (+/-) delta in a ebook single purchase per month and the cost of membership per month- and a bigger benefit, but your mileage may vary)

                      I read banned books

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                      • SomeOldGuyS
                        SomeOldGuy Premium Member @Jon Mitchell
                        last edited by

                        @jon-mitchell I attribute some of the cost to the early access and the "entertainment" value of "reviewing" the pre-publish versions.

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                        • DoubleMangekyoD
                          DoubleMangekyo @Jon Mitchell
                          last edited by

                          @jon-mitchell

                          from a purely financial benefit POV, annual membership isn't a money saver unless you buy around 50 ebooks/year

                          Incorrect. From an ebook-purchasing POV, ignoring whatever value one would assign to pre-pubs, it's still better to get a month's worth of premium, binge buy credits, and cancel the membership.
                          If we assume the goal is to get 48 credits in one year the math would be:

                          Yearly Premium: 120 + 36×6 = $336
                          Monthly Premium: 10.95 + 47×6 = $292.95

                          My light novel counter (EN & JP) for series published by Yen On / JNC / Seven Seas

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                          • Jon MitchellJ
                            Jon Mitchell Premium Member @DoubleMangekyo
                            last edited by

                            @doublemangekyo

                            I think we're talking past eachother

                            the original post/ thread starter - looking at financial benefit of being a premium member vs buying ebooks on amazon

                            I pointed out that the savings don't become significant until/unless you buy approx 48 ebooks a year - if you buy that many, then from a purely dollar and cents POV membership 'pays for itself' in savings vs buying from amazon (worth converting/uploading to amazon so you can read on kindle device? opinions vary)

                            yes - annual vs monthly saves $$, all of my assumptions based upon annual/ongoing membership

                            I read banned books

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                            • K
                              ker2x
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                              Thank you all for the answers <3
                              I'll postpone my subscription for another time.

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