Bootleg Licensed JNC content on Amazon


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    Amazon doesn't seem to actively police their marketplaces. They outsource that to customers...if no one complains and/or asks for refunds...the content/product stays available. Cheap knockoffs, counterfeit goods, grey market items, pirated content etc. I've seen investigative reports from news sources about strollers/car seats that were knockoffs and had safety issues, and other downright dangerous products that would never be on a store shelf sold in Amazon marketplaces. Amazon seems to have the attitude that since they aren't being legally held accountable, they don't need to regulate their site (beyond addressing customer complaints). Post in reviews that content is pirated. Your review will be tagged as a verified purchase and maybe the next guy won't feed the beast, and ALWAYS ask for a refund, ALWAYS complain via their customer service bots. "The squeaky wheel gets the grease" . Pirates that scan/ resell copywritten content will continue to post content wherever they can make a buck, and Amazon won't do anything about it until it is inconvenient to them. These are the types of tools that puritanical busybodies (in my speculative opinion) used against the legitimate LN industry, as consumers and advocates of JNC we can use these tools against pirates. Heck, I'm tempted to seek out pirated content and buy it--just so I can demand a refund and create a hassle for the seller. Amazon's platform has DRM...maybe this is a case where it can be used for good


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    @Jon-Mitchell Amazon usually (seemed) have higher rights standards for their kindle products, though. One time some years back, a bootleg copy of George Orwell's 1984 was sold on Kindle, and Amazon overreacted so much that they refunded everyone that bought it and forcibly deleted the copy from every buyer's library, even those that downloaded it. They got a lot of flack for that, and they have promised never again to delete something from your library without your permission, but the threat remains.

    I just think Japanese media has a much lower chance of having legal repercussions, whereas original-English books are often connected to muli-billion dollar book publishers and it would hurt Amazon if they were to damage relations with them.


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    @LegitPancake If that's the case, then maybe someone needs to convince Kadokawa or Shueisha or one of the other big Japanese publishers to go after unlicensed content on Amazon with the same ferocity Toei goes after unlicensed content on YouTube.


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    @LegitPancake said in Bootleg Licensed JNC content on Amazon:

    @Jon-Mitchell Amazon usually (seemed) have higher rights standards for their kindle products, though. One time some years back, a bootleg copy of George Orwell's 1984 was sold on Kindle, and Amazon overreacted so much that they refunded everyone that bought it and forcibly deleted the copy from every buyer's library, even those that downloaded it. They got a lot of flack for that, and they have promised never again to delete something from your library without your permission, but the threat remains.

    I just think Japanese media has a much lower chance of having legal repercussions, whereas original-English books are often connected to muli-billion dollar book publishers and it would hurt Amazon if they were to damage relations with them.

    I vaguely recalled the 1984 incident...a quick google search revealed to me that this was over a decade ago. I believe the landscape has changed since then. I wouldn't be surprised if small time crooks are selling pirated content. I know that low quality content (that's actually in the public domain) is casually sold in the Kindle Marketplace (all the sci-fi in Project Gutenberg is also on Kindle for $0.99/ title as an example...whoever is posting it is treading on the line of what is legal/ethical.) I admit that I am not an avid user of Amazon for EBooks so I am not aware of the full extent of shady dealings in the marketplace; however, I encourage members of the JNC community to hold Amazon accountable when they see questionable content.


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    @Jon-Mitchell if the material is actually in the public domain, then selling it for profit is entirely legal. Ethical? Maybe not. But definitely legal. The definition of public domain is that anyone can do anything they want with it. (Including selling it). $0.99 actually isn't a bad price to pay for the convenience of someone else having organized the content to put on Kindle for you. At least they're not trying to gouge people on it.


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    I received confirmation from Kodansha that they have received my report and forwarding it to appropriate department to handle it.


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    @hiroto said in Bootleg Licensed JNC content on Amazon:

    @lighthawk96 said in Bootleg Licensed JNC content on Amazon:

    @jpwong
    I did request the refund and reported it. It's all up to Amazon now.

    That was quick. The book is gone from amazon, but other one remains.

    https://www.amazon.com/s?rh=p_27%3ABartus+Zoelen

    I checked again today and this account is gone.


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    @hiroto
    They'll probably open a new account and try, try again.😋


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    I posted (as a review) that the Cooking w/ Wild Game listing appears to be piracy


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    @hiroto
    Well... If at first you don't succeed...


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    @lighthawk96 It is a never-ending war.

    People are always wanting something for nothing.

    All you can do is stamp it out as you see it.


    That said, the pirating "industry" has been more active lately.


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    This stuff shouldn't have to be stamped out if Amazon had better license verification at the submission level. But guess once again covid and lack of human intervention may be to blame.


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