Seven Seas in Trouble for Heavy alterations and censorship of light novels.
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@alfonso_rd_36 sorry. Didn't mean to cause confusion. I was multitasking and didn't clear clip board. Edited the post to arifuta. By the way reddit is constantly building a list on titles that had changes made.
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@BookManiaReader Um... Arifureta is published by us, J-Novel Club. What text is there missing from our publication?
Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.
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@myskaros I hate typing on phone. Third edit of the day. Nothing in issue with j-novel club. Seven seas has arifureta zero. Listed on their site too. I edited the post again. :(
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@BookManiaReader As a light novel, Arifureto Zero is also JNC:
https://j-novel.club/s/arifureta-zero/Are they referring to manga?
Also, the word you're looking for is "alteration". Altercation is a conflict/fight.
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And none of your links mention anything about Arifureta or Arifureta Zero, so I don't understand why you're bringing it up.
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@SomeOldGuy said in Seven Seas in Trouble for Heavy altercations and censorship of light novels.:
@BookManiaReader As a light novel, Arifureto Zero is also JNC:
https://j-novel.club/s/arifureta-zero/Are they referring to manga?
Also, the word you're looking for is "alteration". Altercation is a conflict/fight.
I'll correct spelling. And I apologize for errors I am on a phone right now. Well I did research on this topic while browsing posts and yes jnc does publish it but Seven Seas also has the Arifureta from common place to world's strongest zero light novel is in their library to buy from. But they do list jnc editor as the person who translated it. I am just going to remove arifureta-zero for the time being since their website sucks and since the story broke redditors looking for other novels seven seas tarnish is probably getting confused on licensing. I am going to be more careful going forward. But below is seven seas website and it's confusing as hell as they list both physical book stores to buy from or their site listings as well S other publishers but links goes through a similar pages. Damn confusing. Also I brought up arifureta-zero because I was browsing reddit's dedicated discussion thread of seven seas and the title was mentioned and it is a story I have on my watch list i put it in the thread before verification. But since info was mistaken I have removed arifureta-zero from the topic and will stick to titles verified by news outlets. Maybe I shouldn't be multi-tasking during work.
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Yeah, that kind of dumb move carries the risk of making the whole industry look bad even if it turns out only one person was behind it. The issue with "Classroom of the elite" is kinda forgettable it looks like it was just a one-time mistake but I hope they give a real apology and edit the volumes. I really really don't understand how they thought it was gonna go noticed when the whole series is fan-translated and quite popular.
What's even more infuriating is that I remember complaining about some missing paragraph in vol2 and some people also theorized that maybe it had been censored. To which both the author and the CM answered that yes a paragraph had been forgotten but that SS would never censor, it really doesn't make them look good now.
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The issue with "Classroom of the elite" is kinda forgettable it looks like it was just a one-time mistake but I hope they give a real apology and edit the volumes.
"Classroom of the Elite" is limited to a single volume.
From what I saw on r/ClassroomOfTheElite, this issue is not limited to a single volume, but to the other books as well (particularly 5 and 7.5). It's just that only 7 got a comparison big enough to get the word out.
That honestly sucks. There's a lot of novels I have or wanted to buy from Seven Seas, but now I'm unsure if I should continue to purchase any books published by them, as there's no telling how much of their catalogue is affected by censorship/rewritten for no good reason.
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@Wellwisher I'm in the same boat.
Do I continue buying from Seven Seas?
I have so many series from them, how many need to be dropped.
Is this a single editor? Single translator? A whole group?
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@jampodevral said in Seven Seas in Trouble for Heavy alterations and censorship of light novels.:
Do I continue buying from Seven Seas?
I wonder if this was the reason for 'Airship' as being their publication arm for LNs?
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@grobinson2k1 Same upper management. This could have been the call of the leadership to make these more mainstream acceptable.
I need to look into who was involved in the translations of tensei, cause I dont even know if I would have continued reading the story. I need to verify where/if that team has made the same decision to look down on the ability of the english speaking audience to choose what media to support. That choice was removed from me and it does paint the kid in a different light.
I don't like this. At all. A warning label on the blurb would have been the way to deal with this -
@jampodevral said in Seven Seas in Trouble for Heavy alterations and censorship of light novels.:
Same upper management. This could have been the call of the leadership to make these more mainstream acceptable.
I know, but the easiest way to hide from bad history is redirection and a name change is the easiest way to do it. Phillip Morris, ValuJet, Blackwater, etc.
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Troubling, this is. I only buy from JNC and YP, but I think SS got Restaurant from Another World, which I was interested in buying. Now I'm extremely hesitant to buy from them. Would buying from them be tacit support for what they have done?
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@Paul-Nebeling it's a tough one because of Seven Seas get too much flak and decide that Light Novels aren't
profitable for all the trouble then they could drop them and we'd lose a lot of good licences.It's a devil and deep blue ocean scenario I'm afraid.
PS restaurant to another world is great. Aletta is such a cutie .
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I'm waiting to see what they end up doing going forward right now, they've said they'll fix one and are evaluating the second. They have The World of Otome Games is Tough for Mobs which I'm interested in getting and while I don't think there's anything in that controversial like what was changed in MT, the other one sounds like they just jettisoned the content for no real reason other than editing purposes which unfortunately doesn't exactly demonstrate the issue is potentially restricted to potentially controversial topics.
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BookManiaReader said in Seven Seas in Trouble for Heavy alterations and censorship of light novels.:
So Seven Seas Entertainment is in trouble ...
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... heavy alterations to were in breach of contract with Japanese license holder.I've been trying to follow this somewhat, so just to confirm, this part is speculation, correct? I haven't previously seen any mention of a reaction or legal interaction from the Japanese publisher(s).
Not that such things couldn't be happening behind the scenes, but the only publicly visible "trouble" I've seen is fan discontent. So just trying to confirm I haven't missed something.
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@ShipTeaser said in Seven Seas in Trouble for Heavy alterations and censorship of light novels.:
PS restaurant to another world is great. Aletta is such a cutie .
I had been hoping Sam could snag that title, but alas, it was not to be.
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Hopefully this SNAFU will not impact jnovel and yen press. Time will tell
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@hatguy12 I doubt there's actually a breach of contract. Unless they did something to hide the changes from the JP publisher, there likely isn't any legal issues, and it seems really unlikely that they would do something that could potentially jeopardize their whole business just to change a few parts of 2 series anyway.
Most likely, at worst, it will just somewhat damage their relationship with publishers or authors who hadn't realized the text had been meaningfully changed.
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@frankinnola
I don't know about YP but I don't think JNC will have any problems with this since people can realise as early as the pre-pub release if JNC starts altering or omitting things from the original Japanese. There are a lot of readers here who also reads the Japanese Versions after all.
