Don't remove Vol 1 of any novel series!!!
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I thought the same thing when I joined JNC, but came to the conclusion that JNC in ways support the authors of LNs and I love reading LNs so by support a legit service that JNC offers I also support the authors. Cuz I'm sure you won't find faster volume translators and publishers like JNC. That was my reason for picking premium membership status and staying subbed.
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I think I may consider premium when I upgrade my phone iPhone 8 this year with more storage space... I only have 16gig on my iPhone 7 atm... can't do e-books... -
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@Dennis-Chau Books are broken down into 8 - 10 parts (usually)
Then those parts are released on a weekly bases. Then after a Volume is fully translated there is a 1 - 2 week break before the next volume starts to release.The book In Another World With my Smartphone is a special case where the book is translated in 6 parts. (Even thought it is a thick book [my opinion])
It has been said that the most a Volume will be broken down is 12 parts, however no book has ever had to be extended that much, and most are completed in 8 parts, longer volumes 10 parts.
After the book is fully translated on the site the E-Book should be released around 3 weeks later, so there is plenty of time to read before it goes into the vault.
Then (according to new info) when an E-Book comes out the pre-pub parts on the site will be taken down whenever the next 15th of the month is from the E-Book release date.
Also on aside note later this year (most likely September) if history proves right then apple will release the iPhone 7s & iPhone 7s+.
Then year is when the iPhone 8 will be released...if history is to repeat itself.
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@Dennis-Chau Couple of things you may or may have not missed:
- Premium e-books here are around 300-500KB of text (100-200KB compressed, which epub does) and around 20MB of Images (or about 5MB if you rescale and do lossy compression to the size of prepub images), so I'm not sure how storage is problematic.
- There are five series with first volumes available right now, so maybe your timing isn't the worst possible (it's still pretty bad because a month ago all previous parts were unlocked for a week and you could have a free trial)
- You can update to premium and have a discount equal to what's left of your current subscription (almost $5 in your case, assuming you got monthly sub). You'll get a credit right away as a first-time premium user and then one more on 15th day of each month (meaning first month will get you two credits).
- There's a post edit button below the post, after "quote" and "upvote".
edit: As for free volume suggestion, giving out the whole volume seems like too much, especially in cases where first volume is really self-contained.
Making first 3-4 parts available sound good, though.
I guess OP meant member-only unexpiring parts but because there's no parts like this now I thought he meant open to everyone as preview.
Related bug report: reading preview of expired volumes in the web reader eventually leads you to usual "You could be reading this now! Become a member." message which is pretty misleading if part was taken down already, @Sam-Pinansky. -
@Rahul-Balaggan Well it is Apple's anniversary.. and a lot of people expect it to skip 7s and jump straight into 8... but who knows?
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@_08 I am using my iPhone which much have 0 bytes of extra space and having to constantly removing cache and history daily...
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@_08 said in Don't remove Vol 1 of any novel series!!!:
@Dennis-Chau Couple of things you may or may have not missed:
- Premium e-books here are around 300-500KB of text (100-200KB compressed, which epub does) and around 20MB of Images (or about 5MB if you rescale and do lossy compression to the size of prepub images), so I'm not sure how storage is problematic.
- There are five series with first volumes available right now, so maybe your timing isn't the worst possible (it's still pretty bad because a month ago all previous parts were unlocked for a week and you could have a free trial)
- You can update to premium and have a discount equal to what's left of your current subscription (almost $5 in your case, assuming you got monthly sub). You'll get a credit right away as a first-time premium user and then one more on 15th day of each month (meaning first month will get you two credits).
- There's a post edit button below the post, after "quote" and "upvote".
edit: As for free volume suggestion, giving out the whole volume seems like too much, especially in cases where first volume is really self-contained.
Making first 3-4 parts available sound good, though.
I guess OP meant member-only unexpiring parts but because there's no parts like this now I thought he meant open to everyone as preview.
Related bug report: reading preview of expired volumes in the web reader eventually leads you to usual "You could be reading this now! Become a member." message which is pretty misleading if part was taken down already, @Sam-Pinansky.LN epubs might only be 15-20mb big, but if you're collecting a lot of series it adds up fast, especially if your phone/tablet have small internal storage and no external storage.
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Having too many early volumes available for free would probably result in a price hike for everyone and wouldn't be fair for those who have been subscribing for a long time.
One potential option would be for J-Novel Club to have a one-off "starter pack" where you could pay a reduced fee to get 5 credits at once that could only be used on first volumes.
Rationale: The starter credit pack means newcomers can quickly try out different novels to see if they like them. It also also means that existing customers are not disadvantaged as they can be used on future first volumes going forwards. As you can only get 5 credits this way it doesn't mean first volumes are always reduced and so those who paid more for previous first volumes are not worse off (so long as they would otherwise be buying more than 5 subsequent first volumes). The reason you would be expected to buy 5 credits at once is that it is a means of encouraging people to take a chance on a new series they might like but don't know it because they wouldn't otherwise buy - it means people do not only get the first novels of series they would buy anyway at full price, and so the multi-buy element and first volume limitation helps justify the price discount.
I say 5 credits, but the precise number could be higher or lower - that just sounded like it might be a good amount to get people to buy more books than they would otherwise buy but without the combined price being so expensive (although this would of course depend on the level of discount).
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Hmm I think that having available first volumes to read for premium should be a good thing, since basically it would increase in some cases revenue of site, or maybe better would be giving first volumes of series to be readable every few months, so that members who just do not know some series can try it and buy all available volumes.
As for saying that few parts of novel we are able to decide whether novel is good or not I say it's bullshit because even now I sometimes dropping a series after reading few parts and what left me is the feeling of regret that i ever decided to buy it, the example from this site is Little Apocalypse since basically I liked first volume but it become completely worst after i read that each volume will introduce new heroines -
@dullman said in Don't remove Vol 1 of any novel series!!!:
Hmm I think that having available first volumes to read for premium should be a good thing, since basically it would increase in some cases revenue of site, or maybe better would be giving first volumes of series to be readable every few months, so that members who just do not know some series can try
Maybe it could be a perk for those with a one year premium subscription or for anyone who has been a monthly premium subscriber for more than a few months. Would prevent people from being premium for just one month to get the first volumes.
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What about the idea that if you have purchased a book (basically any title you have in your library) the parts for it show up in the reading list? That way you could still have part 1 of all the back issues there for sampling members as there currently are, but you'd see all parts there if you'd purchased the book so people with devices that can't handle a full book can still read them via the app in sections. Basically unlocked content in the app for owners of titles.
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I'm late to this, but...
Since the first anniversary of JNC back in October, there have always been at least two entire series on catchup. During the October catchup, when there were five series available, I used the first part of three novels to decide which one I wanted to read. Since then, only one novel has not managed to catch my interest in one part. So, no, I don't think we need to leave the entire first volume up.
As for speed, JNC translates one part per week, with a two week break between volumes. Most novels are broken into 8 parts. I'll reserve comment on Smartphone, because I had purchased the first four volumes before joining JNC, but it seems like the recent ones have been 8 parts. Clockwork Planet volume 3 seems to be going for a record for most parts. Other translators can't even compare.
As more series reach the "caught up" state, it will be interesting to see how things go.
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I agree that the first full volume should remain available to subscribers (rather than the first part of each volume), because it's the best way to get somebody hooked on a series. If we ignore catchup, there isn't necessarily much value to a subscription for new members, as most series are ongoing and there are few series that a new subscriber can start on without buying the individual volumes. Providing the first volume of each series gives new subscribers a large variety of content to start with, and encourages them to become committed to a new series, which may entice them to buy further volumes to catch up.
This approach has worked well for Baen, a sci-fi publisher who was in many ways one of the original pioneers of modern ebooks due to the foresight of the late Jim Baen. For many years they've operated the "Baen Free Library" which makes available the first novel in many series (http://www.baen.com/categories/free-library.html). It's how I got started on a bunch of Baen series, such as the Honor Harrington series, some of which I would probably never have started if I didn't have a chance to read the first book in a series and say "Hey, I really liked that, I want more of it."
This strategy has worked well enough for Baen that they continue to offer the Free Library roughly 19 years after they launched it.
