People over at the J Novel Club are knock off Yakuza

First of all, I really like this service and will continue to use it. I believe that if you love anime/manga/light and web novels, you should always support the official releases.

Secondly: this is the same sort of argument I see on MAL all the time about people trying to justify anime piracy. It doesn’t matter how cheap something is, free is always cheaper so they are going to resort to piracy. These fan translators have been talked to, so if they get a DCMA against them, it’s their own fault.

seault

@paul-nebeling

Very well said

seault

@sam-pinansky

bows

jampodevral

@sam-pinansky said in People over at the J Novel Club are knock off Yakuza:

I feel like I've created some kind of zealous cult.

When the quality of the work you do is this good, the people will follow.

smashman42

@jampodevral said in People over at the J Novel Club are knock off Yakuza:

@sam-pinansky said in People over at the J Novel Club are knock off Yakuza:

I feel like I've created some kind of zealous cult.

When the quality of the work you do is this good, the people will follow.

True story!

Remember that old 'Fast, cheap, good - pick two' thing?

Here we get fast, good, and at worst the same price for a premium ebook with more stuff in it than the same thing from Amazon etc (and cheaper than Yen Press releases no matter where you buy JNC stuff). That's pretty much all three which ain't supposed to be possible. Therefore the cult is understandable for people that want the original author to get a cut.

Shiny

If you translate it, they will come.

Anzer

@eric-kancso
I’m not gonna lie, it looks like homeboy created an alt just to agree with himself a month later because nobody else did. That said, I haven’t been a premium member for over half a year for nothing. JNovel is fantastic, they do fantastic work and they (and the original authors) deserve to be paid for their hard work.
If you don’t believe that, then that’s your problem.

Nu_case

@the-green-death

Late to the thread, but I also didn't fall down the Light novel rabbit hole until SAO. It still holds a small, uncomfortable, place in my heart due to introducing me to the medium.

saskir

@jnovelaremonsters Sorry if I did not read all your posts. But the ones on teh first Page are enough for me.

So First you say JNC is bad, they are evil, horrible people. Oh and they will delete every reply here.

Then you say poor wording. You have no proof except hearsay from someone else.

Uhm yeah. OK.

For my part I will gladly pay someone who has obtained the rights to a work. This whole Patreon, Donations, etc for more chapters has gotten out of hand. And we all know that there are not even a handful of translators who asked atleast the original author if they can translate it.

redknight1322

@jnovelaremonsters
You are trying to parse these distinctions like a finely shaved daikon... If you translate it and republish it you violate copyright law across multiple jurisdictions. Just stating that it is a simple translation does not absolve you from responsibility regarding copyright law or its application to willful violators.

redknight1322

@hyferzftw Cult?! What cult?.... Do not pay attention to the man behind the green curtain... he is not important at ALL!!!

Kadmos1

I am fully aware that most fan translations, of which I frequent many such sites, are copyright infringement save for fair use or rights holder-approval. However, I don't support the donation aspect of any of these unless it was proven the translations are rights-holder approved. Call me a "pirate" if you want, but even I have standards regarding fan translations. On the ironic side, I frequently use my FB profiles to rant about the deprivation of the Amer. public domain.

Also, let's be honest here about piracy (this coming from a copyright minimalist largely thanks the Disney Empire lobbying for longer copyright terms): it very much hurts entertainment sales. However, it sometimes helps sale in the sense that a person enjoying the fansub, scanlation, or LN fan translation may be willing to a legit copy of the work to support the industry. Also, fan translations of a particular title could be popular enough that an official license for that work is established.

Bravo0723

@jnovelaremonsters
What truly rips me a new crack in my ass is the pricing of LN's.
I can pick up any full length paper back novel ( examples with Word Counts @125,000+ [Card's Enders Game's "Speaker for the Dead" 382 pages], @300,000+ [Martin's "A Feast for Crows"] to over 415,000 [Martin's "A Dance with Dragons"]) written here in the US for under $10. Though all these Japanese Light Novels with around a 50,000-60,000 word count cost about that much just in EPUB & $12-$14 each if I wanted them in paper back format.
As far as I am concerned the publishers can go to hell with the rest of the Yakuza (Mafia in my Italian heritage) & the other price gougers around this world. I will continue to find free uploads of these LN's untill they learn to price them accordingly, that'd be @ $2-$4 each at most or at least 4-10 LN's combined into 1 if they want a $7-$8 epub or $12-$14 P.B. price tag paid for them.