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    • WaterDwellerW
      WaterDweller Premium Member
      last edited by WaterDweller

      I'm tempted to make a submission to the contest as well, though I've already got a few finished stories to choose from. For me, the problem will be whether I can actually force myself to revise one of the stories, as what I have is just a bunch of (highly) flawed, unpolished first drafts, and I really struggle with revision. For me, writing is fun. Revising? Not so much. (And the chances that any of my unedited first drafts will make the cut are practically non-existent. 😓) Still, with six months to choose a story and having a go at fixing and improving it, there's at least some hope (if only a little). 😐

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        zwabbit Premium Member
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        Six months for 100K words is doable, with a bit of focus. There was a time when I was doing something like 5K word chapters per day for about two weeks when I was in an especially "inspired" mode. I think my bigger challenge would be keeping the story compact enough to fit within 100K words. The shortest of my "recent" works that's actually complete breaches the 300K mark. Might have to think about breaking up the plot arcs.

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        • RanR
          Ran
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          The Isekai panel was an absolute blast! Mad props to Maddie and Andrew, or maybe mad libs.

          Now I really want to know which series the "your new best friend turns out to be the big evil threat" came from, though...

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          • S
            ShipTeaser Premium Member
            last edited by ShipTeaser

            Yeah gonna throw my hat into the Light Novel ring. It'll be a bit of a pain doing a second story while maintaining my main releases, but I had an idea so why not...

            It's all a bit of fun, right heh

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            • AngelusA
              Angelus Member @hirei
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              @hirei, could you give us some idea of how soon we'll get the LN contest submission guidelines in terms of media formats? I know from past experience that it can be a bit of a chore converting between some pairs of formats, especially if you're hundreds of pages in. [Edit] And I know it says no illustrations, but what about maps?

              After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
              —Tearmoon Empire

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                Vivian
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                A bit late to the news, and it have been a while since I’ve been back here, but I’m interested in the light novel contest. At the very least, I’ll used it as a goal to get me motivated to finish one of my stories.

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                • jazzyjeoffJ
                  jazzyjeoff
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                  How is everyone’s stuff going? I am hoping to stop by here from time-to-time to commiserate with folks trying to get something done in time for the contest. I am also happy to hear from folks who aren’t participating—who are just curious, or want to offer support (or who want offer a good-natured laugh at our expense)—it’s all good. I mostly subscribe to J-Novel for the forums—so it’s really nice to hear from folks!

                  As for me, I don’t know if I will get done in time, but at least I have found few characters that i find kind of fun—so that’s a win!

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                  • Lily GardenL
                    Lily Garden Member @jazzyjeoff
                    last edited by Lily Garden

                    @jazzyjeoff still finishing up my outline, I'm having trouble figuring out what I should do in the last 2 chapters. But I've written up a character sheets for my main cast and have some good sense of where I'm going. Now I just have to write the damn thing 😅

                    “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                      BakedWordSalad @jazzyjeoff
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                      @jazzyjeoff My goal with this contest is to just "finish a novel" because while I had many great ideas in the past I never actually wrote anything past a chapter 1 before. Now I'm sitting at 10k+ words, I'm not very hopeful the end result will be anything substantial but just getting to this point has been a big achievement for me.

                      I'm also very excited to see everyone else's stories.
                      Also maybe we could get a thread going for the contest for everyone to discuss their own progress and whatnot.

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                      • AngelusA
                        Angelus Member @BakedWordSalad
                        last edited by Angelus

                        @Anti-i25 said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:

                        Also maybe we could get a thread going for the contest for everyone to discuss their own progress and whatnot.

                        I did consider starting one myself, but it would have to be strictly on the basis that nobody shared anything more than the barest plot/character details because it's only too easy to copy something else subconsciously plus I was wondering if there might be an official one started anyway once submissions were open.

                        As for my effort, I have around 13k words so far but I'm waiting now until I see the detailed rules before I go any further, I don't want to get caught out by unforeseen restrictions like it having to be submitted on maximal-quality feypaper (apologies to those poor souls not following Bookworm).

                        After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
                        —Tearmoon Empire

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                        • jazzyjeoffJ
                          jazzyjeoff @BakedWordSalad
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                          @Anti-i25 yeah, I might be at 10K, too. But my setting is pretty non-descript and the tone is sort of uneven. That’s the thing about only having messed around with fan-fiction—those things are already done for you. Now I have to think about world-building and describing scenery and whatnot. Even putting together something that is original but tropey is a lot more work.

                          @Lily-Garden Character sheets? —yikes—sounds so organized! ;)
                          I think Mike Tyson said, “everyone has a plan—until they get hit.” That’s pretty much the way my plots and characters work—I start with a plot and some characters—and then the characters pretty much ignore everything I have planned out for them (and somehow I end up being the one getting beat up!)

                          Anyway —it’s so nice to hear from folks—have fun and good luck!

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                          • AngelusA
                            Angelus Member @jazzyjeoff
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                            @jazzyjeoff said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:

                            ...original but tropey...

                            You know, that's it. That's the problem I'm running into in a nutshell. How many tropes does a LN need to qualify as a LN? Worried that I didn't have enough, I added a brocon imouto just in case 😄

                            After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
                            —Tearmoon Empire

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                            • jazzyjeoffJ
                              jazzyjeoff @Angelus
                              last edited by jazzyjeoff

                              @Angelus said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:

                              @jazzyjeoff said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:

                              ...original but tropey...

                              You know, that's it. That's the problem I'm running into in a nutshell. How many tropes does a LN need to qualify as a LN? Worried that I didn't have enough, I added a brocon imouto just in case 😄

                              Just put “Villainess” somewhere in the title and I think you’ll be safe —yes, even if it’s BL (wait, that sounds more interesting than the thing I am working on —Arrg!)

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                                ShipTeaser Premium Member
                                last edited by ShipTeaser

                                I'm plotted and happy with it. Going to start doing 5-10k a week soon to.fit around my other project

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                                • Lily GardenL
                                  Lily Garden Member
                                  last edited by Lily Garden

                                  @jazzyjeoff I've never written anything fiction wise longer than say 2 pages so I figured that if I'm going to try to write a whole 35000 or more words then I'm going to need to have a bit of organization to make sure that I have some things like you know character consistency and whatnot

                                  I don't trust my brain to remember all the things so I decided to be best to put it down on paper

                                  “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                                  • Lily GardenL
                                    Lily Garden Member @Angelus
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                                    @Angelus for me I didn't worry about any of the tropes, I don't think I'm a great enough writer to try to control how tropey my writing is. I just tried to think of something I would like to read on J-novel Club that there isn't a bunch of and that I think I could actually you know write.

                                    Imagining my story as if it is its anime adaptation has been helpful though

                                    “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                                    • jazzyjeoffJ
                                      jazzyjeoff @Lily Garden
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                                      @Lily-Garden said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:

                                      @jazzyjeoff I've never written anything fiction wise longer than say 2 pages so I figured that if I'm going to try to write a whole 35000 or more words then I'm going to need to have a bit of organization to make sure that I have some things like you know character consistency and whatnot

                                      I don't trust my brain to remember all the things so I decided to be best to put it down on paper

                                      Oh, I would love to be more organized. And this is pretty much a first for me, too. And since there is a pretty good chance that I won’t finish in time, I am going to at least enjoy the process and maybe enjoy a little bit of camaraderie with folks doing the same. So, please take anything I say in that spirit!

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                                        ShipTeaser Premium Member
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                                        Well, i'm probably not the right person to give advice on quantity, as my main webnovel is up to 1.7 million words lol, but...

                                        Generally, once you start getting the words down, it becomes easier..first 1000 words.is the hardest. At 10,000 you're commited and habits have formed so the next 10k are easier as you've got the flow and the reward of seeing your words on page...

                                        So, yeah, I think it gets easier. The first steps are always the hardest lol

                                        In terms of writing, might not work for anyone else, but for me, I imagine I am the characters I'm.writing, and I find words flow from there

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                                        • Z
                                          zwabbit Premium Member
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                                          At around 30K words at this point. Aiming for 60K for the narrative arc that I'd submit, for this story at least. There's another story that I think might be even more enjoyable due to the character dynamics I've envisioned, but it would be much more complicated to write. That second story might warrant actual planning and a bit of background research so I'm not doing "forging of swords using molds."

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                                          • Lily GardenL
                                            Lily Garden Member @jazzyjeoff
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                                            @jazzyjeoff said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:

                                            @Lily-Garden said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:

                                            @jazzyjeoff I've never written anything fiction wise longer than say 2 pages so I figured that if I'm going to try to write a whole 35000 or more words then I'm going to need to have a bit of organization to make sure that I have some things like you know character consistency and whatnot

                                            I don't trust my brain to remember all the things so I decided to be best to put it down on paper

                                            Oh, I would love to be more organized. And this is pretty much a first for me, too. And since there is a pretty good chance that I won’t finish in time, I am going to at least enjoy the process and maybe enjoy a little bit of camaraderie with folks doing the same. So, please take anything I say in that spirit!

                                            Will do comrade 🫡 😉

                                            I’m normally not an organized person myself but if I’m going to have any chance of completing such a big project then I know I will need to be

                                            “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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