Question: How JNC license novels?
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@paul-nebeling said in Question: How JNC license novels?:
@rahul-balaggan I'm almost certain YP has open ended licence agreements for certain titles (such as SAO)
Considering SAO is "complete" I'm not sure that was a great example :P
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@myskaros Ok. How about The Devil is a Part-Timer? Almost as many volumes, not sure if it's complete or not, same situation. Lots of untranslated volumes, only one or two on pre-order. (I'm picking on those two titles because they're the only two YP offerings that I buy.)
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@paul-nebeling Most of their licenses are ongoing, I just thought it was funny that you chose the only one that wasn't haha.
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@myskaros Um, isn't SAO still publishing? Pretty sure Kawahara's writing more of it after Alicization.
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We are limited in the number of preorders we can put up by Amazon's kdp rules: can't be longer than 90 days away.
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@doublemangekyo I know there is a two volume Alicization side story called Cradle of the Moon, and I've heard rumors that Kawahara is going to write a new arc with a new VRMMO game. Honestly, I just hope he doesn't wait until the very end to have Kirito and Asuna get married in the real world.
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@DoubleMangekyo @paul-nebeling I may be mistaken, I just looked at the release schedule. I was under the impression that Alicization was the end of the web novel adaptation and there was not any more planned content afterwards.
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@myskaros it was, but the author had started writing another arc called "Cradle of the Moon" though it was stated to be sort of a spin-off of SAO, but it stopped after a few chapters. Lots of years later, when the last parts of Alicization were being officially released, Kawahara updated Cradle of the Moon on his website and added a few more chapters, and then announced that SAO's official release would continue with that arc. Alicization finished on vol 18, vols 19 and 20 were released as "Moon Cradle" following the events in Cradle of the Moon, but they were now a side story to be taken to happen before the finale of Alicization. According to the author's twitter, vol 21 is in the works, and when his editor was interviewed, he implied it will be about a new game, so SAO is far from finished.
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@paulnamida so is the publisher pulling a Boruto?
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@legitpancake well, you could think of Accel World as SAO's Boruto. When AW was picked up by the publisher it went something like "I heard you also had another crazy popular web novel series" "ah, yeah, there was that" "we'll publish it as well" "eehhh??!!". Later on, there's been quite a few hints that they occur in the same world, with AW being basically quite some time in the future of SAO's timeline. Haven't been up to date with AW (only got up to Vol. 7) so I'm not sure if these hints were debunked or confirmed as canon by the author though, but the Nerve Gear certainly existed in AW's universe as the first true full-price VR system, and the Neurolinkers are basically quantum computers, which is as well the system behind the developing of the Soul Translator featured on the Alicization arc on SAO.
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@paulnamida said in Question: How JNC license novels?:
Haven't been up to date with AW (only got up to Vol. 7) so I'm not sure if these hints were debunked or confirmed as canon by the author though
While this isn't an explicit confirm or deny from the author, you should skip ahead to volume 10. It's a short story collection, 2 of the stories take place during the first 4 books (so no spoilers, and they were also already animated in the anime if you've seen it) while the last short story is... shall we say, pure fanservice, and I mean that more in the 'fan' sense and less in the 'service' sense.
Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.
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@paulnamida Thanks for verifying that.
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@myskaros @paulnamida Boy, has this thread veered off topic. Anyways, about Volume 10 of AW, Kawahara seems to write/publish stuff like that frequently. I've heard that there's a planned collection of the Sugary Days/Material Editions that fill in more of those two weeks on the 22nd floor. Some of that stuff dates back to the original web novel days.
I did hope they edit it well. Kawahara's early writing was a lot rougher than it is today.
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@paul-nebeling said in Question: How JNC license novels?:
fill in more of those two weeks on the 22nd floor
I think... my implications were not conveyed appropriately, lol. I mean that the 3rd side story is a call out to fans, in the way Ordinal Scale's final battle is, not a service scene :P
Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.
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@myskaros Hmmm. Now I am debating if I should read AW.
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I watched Ordinal scale recently and it struck me as a possible midway point showing how the tech could develop. The moment they suggested
I was like ayup. There we have it, the start of AW required hardware for full burst.
The software would just “unlock” the full dive function. Your VR character loosing its points would equate to expiring the connection that’s inherent to the system.
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I think AW is a better story than SAO for serialization. Just a few things about AW that'll help decide whether you can enjoy it:
-- Assume that the game they're playing works on magic and not technology.
-- Power of friendship. You gotta have your nakamatachis
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@Paul-Nebeling @eins I agree with Eins, but your reasons sound kind of facetious so I'm not sure if you actually want him to want to read it lol.
AW's main advantage over SAO is innate character pathos. SAO's characters are kind of bland/generically "cool," which is the main detractor from the GGO arc, artificially giving Kirito "depth" by giving him all of a sudden this retroactive fear of... I don't even know, losing his humanity or something? Thereafter there's this whole "the best gamer in the world could be even better except he can't take games seriously anymore so cry for him" thing that makes me roll my eyes.
Anyway, AW's characters are completely based around personal flaws, which makes them inherently more interesting since as the audience you're naturally driven to want to know more about how their duel avatars formed, you want to look for clues about the characters written between the lines. I also love that the mythology feels so vast due to the nature of Brain Burst, there's so much history to dig into, and it has this modern legend feel; like even though everything is entirely in the future, you still feel like you're in a classic medieval Joseph Campbell hero's journey.
Accel World is my favorite ongoing (English published) light novel, I pretty much can't wait to read it whenever a new (English) book is released.
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@myskaros said in Question: How JNC license novels?:
SAO's characters are kind of bland/generically "cool," which is the main detractor from the GGO arc, artificially giving Kirito "depth" by giving him all of a sudden this retroactive fear of... I don't even know, losing his humanity or something? Thereafter there's this whole "the best gamer in the world could be even better except he can't take games seriously anymore so cry for him" thing that makes me roll my eyes.
I would not say it was artificial as the Laughing Coffin subjugation was in the very first volume of the novels, and they go more in-depth regarding Kirito so I could better understand where he was coming from, unlike in the anime (SAOII was a horrid adaptation IMO).
Also, wouldn't that technically make him take the games more seriously, not less? Don't know what you mean with the whole "cry for him" part either... Only character I can attribute that to is Yuuki. -
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