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    • pcjP
      pcj Premium Member @Sekki
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      @Sekki Going by your definition there, the Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys series (which I grew up with) probably qualified as light novels, and given their storytelling style and frequency of illustrations, I would tend to agree with that definition.

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      • geetopG
        geetop Member @pcj
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        @pcj

        I never thought of the Hardy Boys as Light Novels (which I loved when I was kid and probably the books that made me love reading).

        Thanks for pointing that out.

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        • SomeOldGuyS
          SomeOldGuy Premium Member
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          Just to be arbitrary...

          "Light novel" = "less than or equal to 50mm thick".
          "Regular novel" = "51mm to 75mm thick".
          "Heavy book" = "76mm or thicker".

          The fact that they're putting more text on the pages doesn't matter. I remember reading a number of books 40+ years ago that, if printed today, would be "heavy pamphlets" instead of the "novels" they were.

          What they're called doesn't really matter to whether or not someone likes them. Size seems to be related to how long it will take you to read the story, and the story is the important part. Picking a size to read limits your choices.

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          • Geezer WeasalopesG
            Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @pcj
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            @pcj
            I was never into Nancy Drew or The Hardy Boys.
            Alfred Hitchcock and the Three Investigators, on the other hand... I think I read the first 20 volumes at my local library before I shifted over to SF following dad getting subscriptions to Analog and F&SF. (The April 1972 issue of Analog was the first to arrive.)

            Given how loosely defined Light Novels are as to subject matter, the pagination and interior illustrations probably qualified, yes.

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            • Travis ButlerT
              Travis Butler Premium Member @Geezer Weasalopes
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              @Geezer-Weasalopes said in What is the definition of a Light Novel?:

              @pcj
              I was never into Nancy Drew or The Hardy Boys.
              Alfred Hitchcock and the Three Investigators, on the other hand... I think I read the first 20 volumes at my local library before I shifted over to SF following dad getting subscriptions to Analog and F&SF. (The April 1972 issue of Analog was the first to arrive.)

              And the Mad Scientist's Club? Alvin Fernald? :)

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              • Geezer WeasalopesG
                Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @Travis Butler
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                @Travis-Butler said in What is the definition of a Light Novel?:

                @Geezer-Weasalopes said in What is the definition of a Light Novel?:

                @pcj
                I was never into Nancy Drew or The Hardy Boys.
                Alfred Hitchcock and the Three Investigators, on the other hand... I think I read the first 20 volumes at my local library before I shifted over to SF following dad getting subscriptions to Analog and F&SF. (The April 1972 issue of Analog was the first to arrive.)

                And the Mad Scientist's Club? Alvin Fernald? :)

                But of course!
                Scholastic Book Service for the win!
                OK, the Alvin Fernalds, at least some were Archer Books?

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                • Travis ButlerT
                  Travis Butler Premium Member @Geezer Weasalopes
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                  @Geezer-Weasalopes said in What is the definition of a Light Novel?:

                  @Travis-Butler said in What is the definition of a Light Novel?:

                  @Geezer-Weasalopes said in What is the definition of a Light Novel?:

                  @pcj
                  I was never into Nancy Drew or The Hardy Boys.
                  Alfred Hitchcock and the Three Investigators, on the other hand... I think I read the first 20 volumes at my local library before I shifted over to SF following dad getting subscriptions to Analog and F&SF. (The April 1972 issue of Analog was the first to arrive.)

                  And the Mad Scientist's Club? Alvin Fernald? :)

                  But of course!
                  Scholastic Book Service for the win!
                  OK, the Alvin Fernalds, at least some were Archer Books?

                  Hmm... I couldn't say. I got at least half of my copies used with a variety of covers, a few even in hardcover, so I don't remember any house style that would identify them.

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                  • A
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                    As people have mentioned on this thread before, "Light Novel" is more a marketing term than anything else.

                    I suppose a good parallel would be "Blockbuster" for movies.

                    Like, we know some things about what kind of movie a movie labeled with that could be, like it probably comes out in the summer (though, for example the star wars comes out in the winter?), it usually has a certain budget, a big star or two, or comes from a major studio. But none of these things are required and really calling anything a "Blockbuster" just sort of "sets the expectations" of the consumer toward a certain direction.

                    That's what "Light Novel" is to me. A marketing term that sets expectations in a certain way, but that the work itself can very much betray those expectations.

                    There are times we call things "Light Novels" in english when they aren't called that in Japan, like JK Haru (you could argue that Hayakawa's label it was published under was a light novel label, but most of the other books under that label were much closer to literature, and JK haru had no internal illustrations).

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                    • Geezer WeasalopesG
                      Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @Travis Butler
                      last edited by Geezer Weasalopes

                      @Travis-Butler
                      There was a time when Scholastic Books published under the operating name of "Scholastic Book Services", with a considerable percentage of their sales through a reader's magazine they distributed to the various schools.

                      My sister purchased a variety of such works in early elementary school, some of which I still have on my shelves some 50+ years later.

                      SBS Logo 1960s?

                      My copy of *The Mad Scientist's Club" was one of theirs. A couple of the Alvin Fernalds as well.

                      Some slight research was required before I realized it was "Archway" that also published some of the Fernalds. Archway was an imprint of Pocket Books.

                      Absolutely no useful information concerning SBS shows up on Scholastic's official site or Wikipedia, which appalls me; they were iconic to anyone of my vintage.

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                      • myskarosM
                        myskaros Staff
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                        If you guys want to start a new topic for this other discussion, feel free, but otherwise you shouldn't hijack this one to have separate conversations.

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