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    • Geezer Weasalopes
      Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member last edited by

      Following how Rokujo Komugi gets approved by Saiga for contact with D-Powers...man, is her LUK ever effective.
      Reality is bent in her presence, and she hasn't a clue; it's just how things are.


      Saito actually said it.

      “All right! Yay! Yaaay! With Yoshimura around, I’ll be invincible!”

      "I'll be invincible!" is the death flagiest death flag ever.
      This is before her expedition to the tenth floor of Yoyogi, which resulted in the first appearance of The Phantom.


      Midori wears glasses.
      Miharu doesn't.
      This places me in quite the quandary, as normally I'm fully on Team Glasses.
      But it's Naruse Miharu.

      ...ttl does good artwork...


      Seeing Miyoshi disappear into the kitchen, Simon leaned forwards and began speaking in a hushed tone.

      “Does this room have any measures against bugging? Wiretapping?”

      “Come on,” I responded. “You know the answer to that.”

      And indeed he did; he agreed that if his country wasn't penetrating their precautions no one else was either.
      This made it much easier to 'talk to himself' in the presence of Miyoshi and Kei and not be concerned with his breach of security being detected by his superiors.


      The Volume 4 reread is now complete.
      Volume 5 awaits.

      All your libraries are belong to us. | Aub Rozemyne | Those who do not read shall not eat.
      Help me, Satomi-san. You're my only hope. | Fight! Yurika! | WW[R|S]D
      Croquettes, Baguettes, and Books, oh my!

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      • Crey
        Crey Member @Geezer Weasalopes last edited by

        @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

        Comic Market...with the Smiths.

        So, if they all had D-Cards and formed an extended party, would they be PSmIth?
        apologies to Phil Foglio

        Shouldn't that apology go to Wodehouse? :)

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        • Geezer Weasalopes
          Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @Crey last edited by Geezer Weasalopes

          @Crey said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

          @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

          Comic Market...with the Smiths.

          So, if they all had D-Cards and formed an extended party, would they be PSmIth?
          apologies to Phil Foglio

          Shouldn't that apology go to Wodehouse? :)

          Buck Godot, Zap Gun for Hire : PSmIth Second volume in the series by the renowned Phil Foglio.

          PSmIth is a hive mind, the result of a multigeneration experiment in human development; the PSI being the indication that "Smith" is a psionic entity.
          So given Asha's bodyguards being thought of as "Smith", a reference to Will Smith's performance in Men in Black, if they formed a party and were thus in telepathic communication the proper reference term would become "PSmIth"...

          Having just done a search on "Smith" and "Wodehouse"...
          The possibility that Phil Foglio was aware of Rupert Smith cannot be discounted; Foglio is the creator of Girl Genius as well as being a fan of funny in all forms. It would be difficult to believe he hadn't come across Wodehouse.
          I, however, wasn't familiar with Rupert Smith; I've read little Wodehouse, and that several decades back and purely as a result of reading Scream for Jeeves, a Wodehouse/Cthulhu pastiche collection written by Peter H. Cannon published in 1994.

          All your libraries are belong to us. | Aub Rozemyne | Those who do not read shall not eat.
          Help me, Satomi-san. You're my only hope. | Fight! Yurika! | WW[R|S]D
          Croquettes, Baguettes, and Books, oh my!

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          • Crey
            Crey Member @Geezer Weasalopes last edited by

            @Geezer-Weasalopes Ah sorry, haven't read the Phil Foglio book. The first thing that came to my mind was "Leave it to Psmith" by Wodehouse when I saw your post. Purely based on name, unlike your actual chain of associations. :)

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            • Geezer Weasalopes
              Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member last edited by Geezer Weasalopes

              It was then that I realized we had completely made up our minds to train her. Even though, looking back on it, we had absolutely no obligation to do so. There was the matter of Mining, but we could have worked out something else.
               
              Maybe that was just the start of Komugi’s tremendous LUC stat taking effect.

              Hokay.
              Kei did consider that they were being influenced by her LUC of 41.

              @Crey said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

              @Geezer-Weasalopes Ah sorry, haven't read the Phil Foglio book. The first thing that came to my mind was "Leave it to Psmith" by Wodehouse when I saw your post. Purely based on name, unlike your actual chain of associations. :)

              While I've been amazed by how many folks in the JNC forums appear to have similar background in US & British SF & Fantasy &c to me, that's not always the case.

              This was a somewhat obscure reference.
              It's a somewhat obscure work, relatively speaking.

              All your libraries are belong to us. | Aub Rozemyne | Those who do not read shall not eat.
              Help me, Satomi-san. You're my only hope. | Fight! Yurika! | WW[R|S]D
              Croquettes, Baguettes, and Books, oh my!

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              • sorvani
                sorvani Premium Member @Geezer Weasalopes last edited by

                @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                "I'll be invincible!" is the death flagiest death flag ever.

                So much truth here!

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                • Outinthegardener
                  Outinthegardener Member @Geezer Weasalopes last edited by

                  @Geezer-Weasalopes And here I thought it was a reference to Phil Foglio, old school illustrator of Magic the Gathering cards.

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                  • Geezer Weasalopes
                    Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @Outinthegardener last edited by

                    @Outinthegardener said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                    @Geezer-Weasalopes And here I thought it was a reference to Phil Foglio, old school illustrator of Magic the Gathering cards.

                    Same guy.
                    Phil's been involved with a lot over the years.
                    As can be seen in a perusal of his Wikipedia entry.
                    Quite a lot, in fact.

                    I've met him, once, at a convention in Portland, Oregon.
                    He's a very nice guy in person.

                    All your libraries are belong to us. | Aub Rozemyne | Those who do not read shall not eat.
                    Help me, Satomi-san. You're my only hope. | Fight! Yurika! | WW[R|S]D
                    Croquettes, Baguettes, and Books, oh my!

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                    • Travis Butler
                      Travis Butler Premium Member @Geezer Weasalopes last edited by

                      @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                      @Crey said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                      @Geezer-Weasalopes Ah sorry, haven't read the Phil Foglio book. The first thing that came to my mind was "Leave it to Psmith" by Wodehouse when I saw your post. Purely based on name, unlike your actual chain of associations. :)

                      While I've been amazed by how many folks in the JNC forums appear to have similar background in US & British SF & Fantasy &c to me, that's not always the case.

                      This was a somewhat obscure reference.
                      It's a somewhat obscure work, relatively speaking.

                      One I rather liked, though. :) It's a crying shame the final Gallimaufry arc never got a collected release, and the next-to-last issue had poor distribution and was very hard to find.

                      ...Cats are the proof of a higher purpose to the universe.

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                      • Geezer Weasalopes
                        Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @Travis Butler last edited by Geezer Weasalopes

                        @Travis-Butler said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                        @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                        @Crey said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                        @Geezer-Weasalopes Ah sorry, haven't read the Phil Foglio book. The first thing that came to my mind was "Leave it to Psmith" by Wodehouse when I saw your post. Purely based on name, unlike your actual chain of associations. :)

                        While I've been amazed by how many folks in the JNC forums appear to have similar background in US & British SF & Fantasy &c to me, that's not always the case.

                        This was a somewhat obscure reference.
                        It's a somewhat obscure work, relatively speaking.

                        One I rather liked, though. :) It's a crying shame the final Gallimaufry arc never got a collected release, and the next-to-last issue had poor distribution and was very hard to find.

                        It got an ebook release.
                        All three have, in fact.
                        Available via DriveThruComics.
                        Their TopatoCo shop only has the first two volumes. TopatoCo deals in hardcopy.

                        All your libraries are belong to us. | Aub Rozemyne | Those who do not read shall not eat.
                        Help me, Satomi-san. You're my only hope. | Fight! Yurika! | WW[R|S]D
                        Croquettes, Baguettes, and Books, oh my!

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                        • Travis Butler
                          Travis Butler Premium Member @Geezer Weasalopes last edited by

                          @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                          @Travis-Butler said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                          @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                          @Crey said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                          @Geezer-Weasalopes Ah sorry, haven't read the Phil Foglio book. The first thing that came to my mind was "Leave it to Psmith" by Wodehouse when I saw your post. Purely based on name, unlike your actual chain of associations. :)

                          While I've been amazed by how many folks in the JNC forums appear to have similar background in US & British SF & Fantasy &c to me, that's not always the case.

                          This was a somewhat obscure reference.
                          It's a somewhat obscure work, relatively speaking.

                          One I rather liked, though. :) It's a crying shame the final Gallimaufry arc never got a collected release, and the next-to-last issue had poor distribution and was very hard to find.

                          It got an ebook release.
                          All three have, in fact.
                          Available via DriveThruComics.
                          Their TopatoCo shop only has the first two volumes. TopatoCo deals in hardcopy.

                          Right, collected physical release was what I was talking about.

                          The first two (along with the MythAdventures adaptations Foglio did) got very nice color releases on quality paper; the third arc was just released in b&w on typical cheap comic book paper.

                          Never knew DTC did ebook releases, tho.

                          ...Cats are the proof of a higher purpose to the universe.

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                          • Geezer Weasalopes
                            Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @Travis Butler last edited by Geezer Weasalopes

                            @Travis-Butler said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                            @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                            @Travis-Butler said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                            @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                            @Crey said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                            @Geezer-Weasalopes Ah sorry, haven't read the Phil Foglio book. The first thing that came to my mind was "Leave it to Psmith" by Wodehouse when I saw your post. Purely based on name, unlike your actual chain of associations. :)

                            While I've been amazed by how many folks in the JNC forums appear to have similar background in US & British SF & Fantasy &c to me, that's not always the case.

                            This was a somewhat obscure reference.
                            It's a somewhat obscure work, relatively speaking.

                            One I rather liked, though. :) It's a crying shame the final Gallimaufry arc never got a collected release, and the next-to-last issue had poor distribution and was very hard to find.

                            It got an ebook release.
                            All three have, in fact.
                            Available via DriveThruComics.
                            Their TopatoCo shop only has the first two volumes. TopatoCo deals in hardcopy.

                            Right, collected physical release was what I was talking about.

                            The first two (along with the MythAdventures adaptations Foglio did) got very nice color releases on quality paper; the third arc was just released in b&w on typical cheap comic book paper.

                            Never knew DTC did ebook releases, tho.

                            The conglomerate that comprises the DriveThruWhatever storefronts has pretty much all of their stock as ebooks; at least I've no recollection of coming across anything that was hardcopy. That could just be that I've not been looking for physical so my eyes glazed over, who knows.

                            Donning/Starblaze were the initial publishers for the first two graphic novels, while the MythAdventures adaptations were published by WaRP Graphics (Wendy & Richard Pini's publishing house.) The Gallimaufry 8 issue comic was published by Palliard Press, which Phil co-founded. The Buck Godot stuff is being reissued under the Airship Entertainment label; Airship starts as digital and then goes for Kickstarters to fund hardcopy, I don't know if there's enough interest to fund the third Godot volume to their standards. Airship distributes via TopatoCo for physical and DriveThru for digital, as their primary venues as best as I can tell.

                            All your libraries are belong to us. | Aub Rozemyne | Those who do not read shall not eat.
                            Help me, Satomi-san. You're my only hope. | Fight! Yurika! | WW[R|S]D
                            Croquettes, Baguettes, and Books, oh my!

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                            • sorvani
                              sorvani Premium Member last edited by sorvani

                              Decided to reread a bit.

                              Book 1 Prologue:
                              “The surrounding scientists hurried over to shake the hand of Dr. Theodore Nanase Tyler, who had led the experiment.”

                              Um what? Nanase? Is there some extra Japanese connection being foreshadowed here? I completely missed this before and nothing has come of it yet through book 5.


                              Book 1 before using Making, Keigo notices that his high quality green tea tastes different. This is something I did not notice before. What I am unsure of is why he thinks so, as we will shortly learn that his massive SP gain has not been distributed to any stats. I can think of easy explanations had his SP been distributed, but other than getting his D-Card and a massive amount of SP, nothing should be affecting him. Right after the rebar killed whatever was down at the bottom of the dungeon, it did say he felt his body lift up. I assumed this just to be a reaction to the gaining of all the SP, but putting this together now it implies something more.


                              Book 1 while talking to Iori after the Water Magic orb acquisition, Major Terasawa realizes the possibility or Making based it being on the watchlist.

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                                Almond Magnum Member @sorvani last edited by

                                @sorvani said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                                Book 1 while talking to Iori when she gets Water Magic, Major Terasawa realizes the possibility or Making based it being on the watchlist.

                                Iori didn't get Water Magic. It went to three "old" guys.

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                                • sorvani
                                  sorvani Premium Member @Almond Magnum last edited by sorvani

                                  @Almond-Magnum said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                                  @sorvani said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                                  Book 1 while talking to Iori when she gets Water Magic, Major Terasawa realizes the possibility or Making based it being on the watchlist.

                                  Iori didn't get Water Magic. It went to three "old" guys.

                                  Yeah, I worded that bad. I meant at that meeting. Edited my post.

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                                  • sorvani
                                    sorvani Premium Member last edited by sorvani

                                    I remember the conversation but the more recent discoveries give it more importance. Book 1 before the dinner party with Asha, Keigo and Miyoshi discuss if Asha will be able to pierce her ears and if it will stick after super recovery kicks back in. Miyoshi points out hers did and that thought might be part of it.


                                    Book two during his not a date with Mitsurugi, Keigo hits 100 kills on a slime but because everything is on cooldown the Making window does not even pop up. I completely missed this the first time.

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                                      sorvani Premium Member last edited by

                                      Book three when they first encounter Ngai, Keigo attacks with flame lance after water lance.

                                      When did he acquire Fire Magic? Sure they had the opportunity to get is on level 11 as they went through it a few times during the time skips surrounding Otherworldly Language Comprehension, but it was never stated. Or did he learn to use it as part of Ultimate Fire Magic? Personally I do not think that is the case because of the discussion in Books 5 & 6 about using Ultimate Fire Magic in Yokohama.

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                                        sorvani Premium Member last edited by sorvani

                                        Book 4, after the D-Powers Press Conference when Team Simon + Cathy were talking, Simon nails Keigo as the Phantom with enough logic and circumstantial evidence that no one present doubts the deduction by the end of the meeting. I recall the discussion from my first read, but not that it was quite that in depth and believed by the team.

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                                        • Geezer Weasalopes
                                          Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @sorvani last edited by Geezer Weasalopes

                                          @sorvani said in Thoughts upon rereading D-Genesis - there will be spoilers, of course.:

                                          I remember the conversation but the more recent discoveries give it more importance. Book 1 before the dinner party with Asha, Keigo and Miyoshi discuss if Asha will be able to pierce her ears and if it will stick after super recovery kicks back in. Miyoshi points out hers did and that thought might be part of it.

                                          iirc Keigo starts to ask concerning the status of a certain portion of...female anatomy...and Miyoshi slaps him down hard before he gets all the words out.

                                          My thought at the time was that it was only potentially relevant if it had been... And no matter how you looked at it you didn't want to state an assumption concerning its status prior to Miyoshi having absorbed the Skill Orb unless you had personal knowledge of its state...which Keigo very much doesn't based upon everything we know.

                                          It was such a "Kei, this is why you don't have a girlfriend" moment.

                                          All your libraries are belong to us. | Aub Rozemyne | Those who do not read shall not eat.
                                          Help me, Satomi-san. You're my only hope. | Fight! Yurika! | WW[R|S]D
                                          Croquettes, Baguettes, and Books, oh my!

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                                          • Outinthegardener
                                            Outinthegardener Member @Geezer Weasalopes last edited by

                                            @Geezer-Weasalopes Keep my you-know-what out of your mouth! Gross, not like that! Hentai!!

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