Grimgar - Shipping or World Dynamics?

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    What are you guys most interested in about Grimgar? On the wiki, close to 90% of the discussions are about shipping so I'm curious if that is the same here. I'm more interested in talking about the World Dynamics of Grimgar.

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    I was curious about MC's love interest too. Shipping trumps everything (if any current LN series on here has an actual relationship, not inane 3-4 person competitions that won't have a definite winner, let me know). xD

    I am curious if they eventually explain how they got to that world, and why their memory is wiped, but they still have occasional knowledge from the real world. Did they die? Is this a simulation and nothing that happened is real (please no)? Can this world exist alongside their own? The typcial stuff you think of in a Log Horizon scenario.

    I spoiled myself on a lot of the shipping stuff by reading blog synopses, so I guess for me it's probably now more the latter, the "what is this world and how did they get there". I'm not super interested until it catches up with the bit I read about, which is up to about vol 8, but I hope there's some fun stuff in there before then.

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    You're up to volume 8? A little bit jealous lol. I only got to halfway through volume 4 before it got licensed and the translations stopped.

    I'm big into spoilers myself. Once I get into something I have to find everything about it. So I'm aware of things, the direction it is going, but don't have the details.

    I don't mind shipping speculation but dislike how it usually dominates the conversation, as I'm way more interested in the mechanics of the world and how things work.

    Also since only Volume 1 has been translated I don't want to spoil things here but it is hard. Currently I have it at 50/50 of it being a game world or an alternate fantasy world but I'm leading towards the latter. But so far there has not been any proof one way or the other and it doesn't seem like it is going to become a relevant plot point for awhile now.

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    @Bkaa25 Nah, just read synopses. I don't read fanslations. I think reading a review / synopsis is a bit more morally gray, but eh, it still makes it so you know more than you should.

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    Yume > Mery!
    Just because of that scene of them hugging in the rain >_< it was too cute.

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    @Bryan I agree with you on that part. Was one of the most emotionally intimate scenes I've seen in awhile.

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    Can we agree Ranta is worst? And if you're asking "worst what?" he's worst everything. xP

    (I need to give him a chance in the LNs, but he was heavily complained about from what I remember during the show's run).

    Edit: Started the book up. Ranta is almost as annoying as in the show. Yume saying his curls are cute though was a nice moment (is that in the show?). :blush:

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    @Terrence I agree. But Ranta is harder to read than he is to watch.

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    I'm guessing shipping is always such a hot topic for people to discuss because there is no guarantee of resolution for a lot of these stories. I've only recently gotten started reading LNs so I don't know how it usually ends up in those, but I know in many anime we will spend an entire series that revolves around a relationship and then, poof, nothing happens. It can get frustrating.

    World dynamics, on the other hand, is something that can be looked at as the story itself and what will be revealed to us over time. The relationships themselves could be considered part of that. Personally, I'm most interested in the character's growth rather than their possible love affairs, right now. As they grow and develop, so will the setting. This is more interesting to me. I won't deny that there may be a couple I'm rooting for in a story, and in some cases rooting against, but there are more important things for me to discuss.

    @Terrence "Is this a simulation and nothing that happened is real (please no)?"

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    @gocav I pretty much feel the same way. I'm more focused on actual character interactions/world dynamics than just shipping couples. Which can make it frustrating because a lot of people on the fan sites only really discuss shipping.

  • @bryan I'm mad that 'that' scene didn't go anywhere, it was so intimate,

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    @beta-zephaniel said in Grimgar - Shipping or World Dynamics?:

    @bryan I'm mad that 'that' scene didn't go anywhere, it was so intimate,

    Unfortunately, writer has a best girl in mind I think. :crying_cat_face:

    (I'm on team Merry because I find Yume's quirks annoying).

    Which appearance of Merry / Mary do you prefer, book or anime? I'd like to read the manga just to see book Merry in "motion". I prefer long hair look to short hair usually, though her long hair is a bit of a mess (guessing it was too tough to animate).

  • @terrence I'm on the Merry/Mary route too actually, but I watched the stupid anime first so the portrayal of the crying scene made everyone think the 'ship has sailed' , I find Yume's quirks cute BUT very annoying as well.

  • Well I have bad news for you guys... jk I ship Merry/Mary and Haru but I’m also super interested in their world. For example the author has another LN that takes place in the same world. Not sure about time, but it would be awesome to see characters meet each other. I think it’s the same time because the other story mc meets with Bree at the beginning just like Haru did for grimgar. Also the fact that there are multiple worlds interests me even more about the setting.

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    I'm in it for all of it - the universe; diff worlds & how they work/connect - initial Grimgar 'summoning' (if that's what it is) - and all the interpersonal relationships, not just shipping but that too.

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    I love the world "building" which it's really more like exploring to me. As far as ships go, Grimgar has never struck me as having a high level of romantic content. For contrast, look at Devil is a Part-Timer, which has a lot more romantic content. Just don't point that out to the fan base though. You will get pummeled and told that it's not a romance.

  • @paul-nebeling yeah I agree yet it’s still my favorite series. Most of the time I don’t like series with no romance. But the way the author created Haru just has me interested in him so much. Like is it possible he will get as strong as master Barbra. Even though he isn’t strong he always finds a way to survive what sometimes seems impossible.

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    I think rather than shipping, the thing I most enjoy reading about is the developing relationships among all the characters (so platonic relationships as well as romantic) and their growth as individuals and as a team. For instance

    I'm also curious about the mysteries in the setting as well but I have a feeling it will be a long time before we see any real answers.

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    @hyferzftw Agreed. Haru is a complex and well written character. The author doesn't mean heavily on tropes to justify his actions, which is refreshing. He's conflicted, haunted and has flaws, but that just makes him more interesting.

    If I had to pick out the author's weakest character, I would say it's Ranta. Compared to the others, he has a cardboard cutout feel to him that the others don't. Heck, Zodiac has better character development than Ranta.

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    @paul-nebeling I'd say cardboard is too harsh for Ranta if you check out his section in the Cyrene Mines in volume 2 or in volume 4 when

    He's just an annoying human scum who has fully embraced being human scum to cope with his circumstances.

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