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I just read that article earlier today and was quite impressed with the numbers. It's unfortunate that I can't stand behind Crunchyroll with the issues that I have with them. As far as buffering specifically, I have a gigabit connection and have had my fair share of issues. The times I have really noticed it, is once an episode is just put up - so seems to be a server/demand issue.
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@khaos said in Anime streaming sites:
Crunchyroll is first and foremost an anime streaming company(currently), in other words anime streaming is their product.
If you are giving a company money for a product you expect that product in return, if the company fails to deliver said product with no explanation/admit to fault/attempts at a solution or some sort of reimbursement it is only natural to no longer do business with that company.Sure, but the main reason this conversation is even occurring isn't because they've somehow failed to deliver the product they promised, it's because they've announced they're doing something new. The anime subscription still costs the same amount of money, and they're still licensing anime every season and even adding older shows to their catalog. The service is not being compromised in any way, at least not on the surface. People are complaining because they're afraid something will happen in the future that hasn't happened yet, and conflating that fear with the current service, which has not changed.
@jason-maranto said in Anime streaming sites:
And what I do with my money is my decision
Yes, I agree. What you do with your money is your decision. What they do with their money is their decision. Once you give them your money, it's no longer your money, it's their money. So the idea that "I'm giving them my money, but expect them to do something with it that I approve of" is ridiculous.
You act as if they have the right to do whatever they want without losing customers
I did not say that anywhere. I did say if you don't like the direction they're taking, then fine. Unsubscribe, that's what you should do. But to whine that they shouldn't pursue potentially profitable business ventures because "it wasn't something I asked for" is childish and not how business works. As I said above, the service you are paying for has not changed at all.
Your lecturing over my reasons(or anybody elses) is pointless -- we are all free to support or not as we see fit...
You're posting your reasons on an Internet forum for some reason, one that gets nonzero traffic, so I assume you're doing it either for attention or simply to express yourself. So, I am choosing to challenge those reasons. You're absolutely right, you're free to do whatever you want, but you still chose to respond to me, so...
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@myskaros said in Anime streaming sites:
@khaos said in Anime streaming sites:
Crunchyroll is first and foremost an anime streaming company(currently), in other words anime streaming is their product.
If you are giving a company money for a product you expect that product in return, if the company fails to deliver said product with no explanation/admit to fault/attempts at a solution or some sort of reimbursement it is only natural to no longer do business with that company.Sure, but the main reason this conversation is even occurring isn't because they've somehow failed to deliver the product they promised, it's because they've announced they're doing something new. The anime subscription still costs the same amount of money, and they're still licensing anime every season and even adding older shows to their catalog. The service is not being compromised in any way, at least not on the surface. People are complaining because they're afraid something will happen in the future that hasn't happened yet, and conflating that fear with the current service, which has not changed.
But at the same time it is because they failed to deliver the product they promised, at least to an expected standard. So whether they are or they are not, reasonably working on the issues but at the same time doing new things - is unknown. Therefore people believe they are investing money that was intended for a product that they were not satisfied with on other endeavors instead. So what follows is people looking for somewhere to voice their complaints....
Much could be avoided if things like this were communicated prior or just more transparent overall.
(Though since all the backlash I think they came out with a statement saying where original series funds came from - but don't remember exactly where it was or what was said)
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Let’s all keep this civil, it is a topic about discussing where we all consume Anime, trying to speculate on the inner workings of Crunchyroll and other similar compaines is not what this topic is about.
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I'm gonna veer away from that incendiary thread and just throw in my two cents. I don't use Crunchyroll because they treat the non-Japanese Asian market poorly. It was mentioned above that CR has the largest library available but not the case here in my country. A lot of series are region-locked, so I don't bother.
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@myskaros Once my pre-paid subscription (which is non-refundable) runs out I could care less what CrunchyRoll does with (what is at that point) its money. Until that happens both they and I consider us engaged in a current transaction... and as such I will continue to express myself as a dissatisfied customer.
If they were to issue me a refund for the remainder of the year I would cancel my forum access there immediately... never to be heard from again.
I have taken as much action to remedy the situation as I am able -- which included getting a 1-year HiDive subscription. I wholeheartedly recommend HiDive as an alternative. I said nothing about CrunchyRoll here in this thread until you posted your reply.
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I stream via my ROKU on my TV (generally not on a pc/tablet)
crunchyroll (free w/ commercials) is tolerable not enough I care deeply about to pay
Amazon/Netflix has a few hidden gems (I just discovered Sagreda Reset on prime)
hidive BETA works on my Ipad- has some free episodes but overlaps w/ HULU/Crunchyroll -so don't use it much VRV seems to crash
I read banned books
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Currently my only streaming service is Amazon. Mostly for other things, but considering that they have the Noitamina and Animeism blocks, I'm quite content with the offering.
I used to have Crunchy, but I won't subscribe again until they finished rolling out a good HTML 5 player - their catalogue in Germany doesn't contain the generally most beloved shows anyway. Though they still win on quantity compared to everyone else.
Speaking of beloved shows, many of those can be found on Wakanim and anime-on-demand.de. But their catalogue is comparatively small, so I subscribe every now and then for 1-3 months, catch up to everything that interests me and drop the subscription afterwards until enough new content is available.OT: @jon-mitchell If you liked Sagrada Reset, may I direct you towards https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/1372/sagrada-reset-aka-sakurada-reset/
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It sounds like CR will FINALY get a decent video player. Though that has not changed my mind about unsubscribing. I could just sub whenever there is a big show like heroaca or something and Hidive has a ton of shows I love and many more shows that I know are great or have wanted to watch for a long time now that I have not yet like K-on for shows I have not watched and Log Horizon or NGNL for shows I have and would like to watch again.
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It's all what someone individually values & what region screwage they suffer through.
I honestly haven't ever used CRs web player to watch a full ep so it is irrelevant to me. Between Chromecast, Apple TV & game consoles, I don't understand why anyone would even want to use the web player cause surely the majority have a way of getting it on the big screen. Do people use their PCs to watch Netflix too? Its an alien concept to me, it's streaming TV so if you intend to use it find a way of putting it on your TV.
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@tremorc I've had to talk to HiDive technical regarding some matters, and a lot of their streaming problems over the cellular networks are netcode protocol problems (namely TLS ones). This comes up at my workplace as the workers have to use company internet at home rather than their usual ISPs.
You might also want to check your phone security settings about what protocols you enable and allow more of them to run.
And I agree, I dropped Crunchyroll over those issues myself. I've also heard about the licensing complaints they had and the personnel issues.
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@smashman42 I use my PC to pretty much watch everything. I haven't turned the TV on in years since everything i watch is internet based and the TV is too old to use without having to purchase something to access the net. I don't use it enough to warrant purchasing, and also, the computer chair is more comfortable than the couch.
Different people watch things in different ways, and having a dodgy web player on a web based service doesn't exactly help.
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@jaquobus @Jon-Mitchell The genre that Sagrada Reset belongs to is somewhere between the local form of sci-fi and something called a honkaku (loosely translated as "orthodox") mystery. They are on the older side, but Goth: A Novel of Horror and HaruChika are also in the same area (I highly recommend both, especially Goth). "Another" is a good series, but I get nightmares from it.
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@smashman42 I do use Netflix on my laptop. Personally, and can answer the why with simply: headphones. Especially if it's a dub and there could be some weird shit.
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@smashman42 I cast it on tv when I am watching with other ppl or when I won't be disturbing them, other than that I watch in my room. I have also had problems with PS4 CR and the app CR, both of witch I can do in my room.
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Maybe I'm just old AF then, it's my house so if I wanna watch hentai loud on the big screen who is gonna stop me? So anime on TV is a no brainer. Guess I didn't factor in different living conditions.
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I am going to start the whole high seas discussion here. Whether you like it or not it is a big part of this that can't be ignored. I am not going to directly name any pirate sites or pit in links but when there is an anime that I want to watch but there is no legal way for me to watch It, I will use the high seas. If it is available on YouTube without any of that high pitched sound and bordered screen I will watch it there, however I am willing to watch it at other sites; Though I absolutely hate that XOXO site and would rather watch on any other site (I want to protect my devices using ad-block on shady sites and I will not allow A-holes infect them).
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ROKU on the tv and ROKU app on my phone - allows me to port audio to headphones and watch on a big screen
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@tremorc good news! funimation is no longer part of vrv coming soon. Even better: HiDive is coming as a replacement! which means hidive on ios!
