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    • myskarosM
      myskaros Staff @Raitoiro
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      @raitoiro said in Arifureta or Grimgar?:

      Also if you go in for the revenge part (like i did), you will be desapointed it's only use as a way to start the serie.

      Might want to read more books before claiming this :< though I will definitely agree in that I like Grimgar better.

      Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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      • RaitoiroR
        Raitoiro Premium Member @myskaros
        last edited by Rahul Balaggan

        @myskaros Really, it became a thing again later on? i might try it again if that the case.

        I said that cause before stoping to read I ask a friend who read up to vol 5, and according to him the MC

        spoiler

        but it was the WN version so may be it change in the LN

        Do you like death, war and misery ?
        Do you like badass op loli who let nobody got in their way ?
        Do you like vengeance story?
        If so then then vote for The girl who ate a death god

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        • myskarosM
          myskaros Staff @Raitoiro
          last edited by

          @raitoiro I think it really depends on what you are looking for. From what you've said, I think it plays out different from what you would probably expect, but it's not like revenge "isn't a thing" at all.

          spoiler

          Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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          • Jon MitchellJ
            Jon Mitchell Premium Member
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            @smiley_101 said in Arifureta or Grimgar?:

            if what you like about Isekai is the 'fish out of water' , how a modern person deals with a different world. Grimgar doesn't have much of this (at least not as a plot point, the characters don't remember their previous lives for the most part)

            I agree with comments above- Arifureta is much more a typical Isekai LN, feels like an anime. Grimgar (at least in the first few novels) feels like a D&D novelization, and that isn't a bad thing - but it is difficult to put these 2 series in the same category.

            How not to Summon a Demon Lord, much more of the 'typical' Isekai than Grimgar is

            I say, read them all

            I read banned books

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            • RaitoiroR
              Raitoiro Premium Member @myskaros
              last edited by

              @myskaros Yeah, it's not nothing, but iit's still a rather little part in the story. It's true, that it may be misplace expectations, but when i ear of revenge isekai i think of something more like Nidome no yuusha.
              From what i've see it seem like that not what people who read Arifureta are looking for anyway, but still if you're going in expecting revenge you may end up desapointed.

              Do you like death, war and misery ?
              Do you like badass op loli who let nobody got in their way ?
              Do you like vengeance story?
              If so then then vote for The girl who ate a death god

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              • myskarosM
                myskaros Staff @Raitoiro
                last edited by myskaros

                @raitoiro I mean, "revenge" isn't mentioned anywhere in the summary.

                Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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                • GuspazG
                  Guspaz Member
                  last edited by

                  It's worth noting that those are volume descriptions, not series descriptions.

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                  • RaitoiroR
                    Raitoiro Premium Member @myskaros
                    last edited by

                    @myskaros Yeah, true but it's quite common to see it advertise as such on forum or list.

                    Do you like death, war and misery ?
                    Do you like badass op loli who let nobody got in their way ?
                    Do you like vengeance story?
                    If so then then vote for The girl who ate a death god

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                      hansolo1300 Premium Member
                      last edited by

                      They're both very different, aside from being isekai like you said. I very much dislike serious realistic things as I read as a way to escape from such things so grimgar was a no for me. Also Ranta was an extremely annoying and prevalent character. Arifureta on the other hand is generic yes. That's what I like about it. It doesn't pretend to be anything else. It's a straight-up classic isekai ln.

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                        Hyferzftw
                        last edited by

                        IMO Grimgar only gets better as the story goes on, while Arifuerta goes down in quality and will never be as good as it was like volume one. I still like both but I’d choose Grimgar every time if I had to pick.

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                        • smiley_101S
                          smiley_101 Premium Member
                          last edited by

                          Thanks for all the replies. Really appreciate it. I will go with Grimgar (11 volumes yay).

                          Books are the best companion a person can have

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                          • RaitoiroR
                            Raitoiro Premium Member @smiley_101
                            last edited by

                            @smiley_101 You can go with 12vol, all the part for the last one are allready translated, and it will be out the 16 of this month.

                            Do you like death, war and misery ?
                            Do you like badass op loli who let nobody got in their way ?
                            Do you like vengeance story?
                            If so then then vote for The girl who ate a death god

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                              pjthomas404
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                              Grimgar can get super-irritating with all of Haru's internal "but I'm so incompetent" monologues, but the story itself is pretty interesting. If you can get past the irritating bits that pop up in almost every volume, it's solid.

                              Arifureta is just good fun, although it has a lot of fan service-y stuff, so if that isn't for you, probably steer clear.

                              Arifureta is mostly just fun with an OP protagonist, whereas Grimgar is basically a super-wuss somehow leading his band of misfit friends safely (most of the time) through crazy dangerous situations.

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                              • JeremyTMHJ
                                JeremyTMH Premium Member
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                                Arifureta has Myuu, therefore I vote Arifureta. :)

                                ☯️世の万物に法理あり... 換斗移星、人事を、成す!☯️

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                                • ZingZ
                                  Zing
                                  last edited by Zing

                                  After reading up to volume 4, I have a rather poor impression of Grimgar. Its just so fucking depressing, everything is and at all times, GRIM. Its like reading a generic D&D campaign written by a sadist. There is zero humour in the 4 books I read so far. I cant even understand how the party members manage to go on living without becoming insane after going through crazy shit covered up by more crazy shit. The story is so grey and social interaction between the party members are so meagre, it makes you wish author had written a beach arc every now and then.

                                  So far, roughly 85% of the dialogue between party members consist of 1 character being a total jerk to everybody else and everybody else being jerks back to said character. The rest of the story is pretty much told through the most unrelatable character of all time, who for the most time either depressed or insecure, or both.

                                  In conclusion:
                                  Grimgar if you want to feel sad.
                                  Arifureta if you want to feel happy.

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                                  • GuspazG
                                    Guspaz Member
                                    last edited by

                                    To be fair, "grim" is literally in the title.

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                                    • Drone205D
                                      Drone205 Premium Member @Guspaz
                                      last edited by

                                      @guspaz said in Arifureta or Grimgar?:

                                      To be fair, "grim" is literally in the title.

                                      That is misleading. "Grim" is part of a word that is in the title.

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                                      • GuspazG
                                        Guspaz Member
                                        last edited by

                                        Is it though? "grimgar" doesn't sound any happier than "grim", and "of ash" is normally not associated with positive things.

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                                          pjthomas404
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                                          I'd say Grimgar is the most consistently rage-inducing of the things that I read. There is a lot of internal whining and general lack of self-confidence among the main characters, and when there is growth, Haruhito especially, seems to get knocked back down a peg into "loser" territory almost as fast as he improves.

                                          All that said, I still enjoy the universe and the overall story for the most part, so I put up with it despite the spikes in blood pressure that come along pretty often.

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                                          • ZingZ
                                            Zing @pjthomas404
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                                            @pjthomas404 I think Shield Hero has some of the most consistent character growth.

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