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      sniper_samurai Premium Member @Paul Nebeling
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      @paul-nebeling I would assume the translators would be given a style sheet with character names and a few terms they are required to use, but have chosen to ignore it. Not the first time incorrect name changes have been made mid series by Crunchy either.

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      • jpwongJ
        jpwong Premium Member
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        They might only get the script sheets, but yeah, I've seen a couple of series (like Monster Hunter) where the names just flip one episode from the Japanese/phonetic spellings to something else, or the official English names even if they sound nothing like what the characters in show are saying.

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        • yairhbY
          yairhb
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          The third episode was better. I hope it will keep going that way. OMG this "tuuuli" that myne said was a critical hit for me!

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            Cibastian Premium Member
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            I think the anime so far is doing an OK job adapting the story - as a fan of the books there were some differences that really popped to my eye (and I'm not talking about the subbers ignoring the glossary quof sent them) - most of which I get why they did (time constraints), but some just really bother me - such as it's hardly noticeable when Myne has a fever or not, and it isn't really emphasized how weak she actually is (other than being unable to flip a paruecake - which I think she could do, if the oven as at a proper height for her to do so) - with most of the scenes that showcase it in the book being cut.
            They also didn't really convey exactly how poor Myne's family is - they didn't show how they couldn't even afford to replace nails that were so rusted even the weak Myne could break them.

            All unrealistic demands (such as adapting 100% of the LN) aside, I think they're doing a pretty decent job getting the main points across, and at a reasonable pace so far (getting around 50% of volume 1 in 3 episodes). I do somewhat worry since at this pace there's no way they'll reach the end of volume 3 (it seems silly to introduce the high priest if they won't reach when he shows up in the adaptation) - though it will make sense to keep this pacing if they have a second season in the works already (one can hope)

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              yumenokage Member @Cibastian
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              @cibastian I already feel like it's going a bit too fast. If they speed it up even more to cover through book 3 or farther...

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              • SomeOldGuyS
                SomeOldGuy Premium Member @Cibastian
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                @cibastian The nails incident was not essential to knowing how poor they were, so why include it? The whole sequence was about how she was smarter than she could act upon, but it was not essential to showing that they were just as poor as everyone around them.

                And if her fevers were obvious, why would there need to be "someone who knows her, monitoring her health"?

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                • renofuryR
                  renofury @yumenokage
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                  @yumenokage I felt the same way, the pacing is really fast. But the story doesn't feel disjointed and quite happy with adaptation.

                  I think the anime would serve me as a nice refresher to the LN, especially if picking back the novel after a long a break. The production is nice and the littke skits with the chibi Myne are a nice fun addition. The background artists done a fabulous job depicting the city. Myne Apartment had so many details, and its exterior was a surprising wooden skyscraper. The layout of the towns gate office was also believable, with filling and writing tools sensibly placed.

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                  • SomeOldGuyS
                    SomeOldGuy Premium Member
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                    OK, I broke down and fired up Crunchyroll to watch the first episode, and the use of the High Priest isn't a spoiler, but a plot device. By having things as "recalling memories", you can gloss over a lot of missing detail.

                    I just hope Crunchroll having the streaming license for this doesn't end up like so many other streamed animes, delaying the release of disks by years, to protect the value of the streaming rights.

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                    • hornet65H
                      hornet65 Member
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                      Her name should be spelled Myne. It was Myne in episode 1, then they changed it for episode 2, went back and edited episode 1, and it's still Main in episode 3.

                      I'm seeing if I can have Crunchyroll correct this, but who knows if they even care all that much.

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                      • Eternal WandererE
                        Eternal Wanderer Premium Member @hornet65
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                        @hornet65 I doubt they will fix it but this kind of thing just makes me so angry, I mean we have the authors word on how to say Myne's name and we can even hear the characters on the show say Myne so why is the whole thing even an issue in the first place. At this point I wonder if its just Crunchyroll being stubborn.

                        I also hope if this series ever gets dubbed its not done by Crunchyroll because if I heard the characters actually refer to her as Main I might just go insane of anger.

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                          MoreDinosaurs Member
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                          Still enjoying this anime! Looks like they have different artists doing the art for the end of each episode. Are these collected in a book somewhere or are they original for the anime? I don't quite understand the Episode 3 pic. Is Tuuli supposed to be a bird? Is this a Japanese culture thing I'm missing out on?

                          Here are desktop backgrounds for Episode 3 and 4.

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                          • DoubleMangekyoD
                            DoubleMangekyo @MoreDinosaurs
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                            @moredinosaurs said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                            I don't quite understand the Episode 3 pic. Is Tuuli supposed to be a bird? Is this a Japanese culture thing I'm missing out on?

                            Probably a reference to this folktale:
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuru_no_Ongaeshi

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                              stardf29 Premium Member @MoreDinosaurs
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                              @moredinosaurs (and anyone who's wondering why the art for the episode 4 endcard looks vaguely familiar)

                              Fun fact: Episode 4's endcard is drawn by Iida Seriko, the artist of Sweet Reincarnation (which JNC has the manga of).

                              I guess other artists of TO Books titles will do the other endcards?

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                              • LegitPancakeL
                                LegitPancake Premium Member @DoubleMangekyo
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                                @doublemangekyo I don’t see any connection between the stories tbh...

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                                • renofuryR
                                  renofury
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                                  Main might be the right way to write Myne name. I was reading the manga vol 2 chapter 1 page 17 and noticed that what Otto wrote on the slate looked like Main spelt backwards.

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                                  • LurkingMcLurkL
                                    LurkingMcLurk Member @renofury
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                                    @renofury
                                    Yeah...No.
                                    https://twitter.com/miyakazuki01/status/935499259515826176
                                    https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/1854/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-vol-1-discussion/55
                                    http://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/372556/blogkey/2269579/

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                                    • myskarosM
                                      myskaros Staff @renofury
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                                      @renofury The author herself chose "Myne" as the correct romanization. What likely happened is that the mangaka indepedently decided to make the fake script look like English and based it on the literal romaji of her katakana name and didn't check with the author if that was acceptable or accurate.

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                                      • LurkingMcLurkL
                                        LurkingMcLurk Member
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                                        @myskaros said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                                        What likely happened is that the mangaka indepedently decided to make the fake script look like English and based it on the literal romaji of her katakana name and didn't check with the author if that was acceptable or accurate.

                                        The mangaka just followed the lead of the LN illustrator because there was an illustration of the slate in LN volume 1. The rest of what you said may still apply though.

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                                        • TUSFT
                                          TUSF Member
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                                          IIRC, the author based her name off the word "Main", but pronounced it as one would if that was kana-ized literally. The author "chose" Myne after this problem was addressed to her by English translators (when the LN was already ~20 volumes long), but Light Novel and Manga illustrations (as well as the anime) show letters that clearly correspond to "M-A-I-N".

                                          Crunchyroll used Myne for the first episode to stay consistent with the Light Novel, but looks like by Episode 2 they actually noticed how the slate used M-A-I-N and realized the reasoning for her name on their own, and figured the fact Characters already pronounced her name as they did, there wasn't a need for a compromise (which was what "Myne" was)

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                                          • myskarosM
                                            myskaros Staff @TUSF
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                                            @tusf said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                                            there wasn't a need for a compromise (which was what "Myne" was)

                                            It's not a compromise when it's the official English spelling.

                                            Regardless of the original intentions or motivations, "Myne" is now what her name is. If they're ignoring the English books, that's one thing, but if they know her name is spelled "Myne" in the books and deliberately choose to depart from that, that's just silly.

                                            It's the same as any other anime adaptation where the source material has already been officially released in English - if any character names aren't spelled the way they are in the source, that is a point of discontent for fans, moreso when it's the main character's name.

                                            Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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