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@cibastian I already feel like it's going a bit too fast. If they speed it up even more to cover through book 3 or farther...
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@cibastian The nails incident was not essential to knowing how poor they were, so why include it? The whole sequence was about how she was smarter than she could act upon, but it was not essential to showing that they were just as poor as everyone around them.
And if her fevers were obvious, why would there need to be "someone who knows her, monitoring her health"?
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@yumenokage I felt the same way, the pacing is really fast. But the story doesn't feel disjointed and quite happy with adaptation.
I think the anime would serve me as a nice refresher to the LN, especially if picking back the novel after a long a break. The production is nice and the littke skits with the chibi Myne are a nice fun addition. The background artists done a fabulous job depicting the city. Myne Apartment had so many details, and its exterior was a surprising wooden skyscraper. The layout of the towns gate office was also believable, with filling and writing tools sensibly placed.
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OK, I broke down and fired up Crunchyroll to watch the first episode, and the use of the High Priest isn't a spoiler, but a plot device. By having things as "recalling memories", you can gloss over a lot of missing detail.
I just hope Crunchroll having the streaming license for this doesn't end up like so many other streamed animes, delaying the release of disks by years, to protect the value of the streaming rights.
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Her name should be spelled Myne. It was Myne in episode 1, then they changed it for episode 2, went back and edited episode 1, and it's still Main in episode 3.
I'm seeing if I can have Crunchyroll correct this, but who knows if they even care all that much.
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@hornet65 I doubt they will fix it but this kind of thing just makes me so angry, I mean we have the authors word on how to say Myne's name and we can even hear the characters on the show say Myne so why is the whole thing even an issue in the first place. At this point I wonder if its just Crunchyroll being stubborn.
I also hope if this series ever gets dubbed its not done by Crunchyroll because if I heard the characters actually refer to her as Main I might just go insane of anger.
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Still enjoying this anime! Looks like they have different artists doing the art for the end of each episode. Are these collected in a book somewhere or are they original for the anime? I don't quite understand the Episode 3 pic. Is Tuuli supposed to be a bird? Is this a Japanese culture thing I'm missing out on?
Here are desktop backgrounds for Episode 3 and 4.
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@moredinosaurs said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
I don't quite understand the Episode 3 pic. Is Tuuli supposed to be a bird? Is this a Japanese culture thing I'm missing out on?
Probably a reference to this folktale:
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@moredinosaurs (and anyone who's wondering why the art for the episode 4 endcard looks vaguely familiar)
Fun fact: Episode 4's endcard is drawn by Iida Seriko, the artist of Sweet Reincarnation (which JNC has the manga of).
I guess other artists of TO Books titles will do the other endcards?
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@doublemangekyo I don’t see any connection between the stories tbh...
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Main might be the right way to write Myne name. I was reading the manga vol 2 chapter 1 page 17 and noticed that what Otto wrote on the slate looked like Main spelt backwards.
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@renofury
Yeah...No.
https://twitter.com/miyakazuki01/status/935499259515826176
https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/1854/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-vol-1-discussion/55
http://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/372556/blogkey/2269579/ -
@renofury The author herself chose "Myne" as the correct romanization. What likely happened is that the mangaka indepedently decided to make the fake script look like English and based it on the literal romaji of her katakana name and didn't check with the author if that was acceptable or accurate.
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@myskaros said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
What likely happened is that the mangaka indepedently decided to make the fake script look like English and based it on the literal romaji of her katakana name and didn't check with the author if that was acceptable or accurate.
The mangaka just followed the lead of the LN illustrator because there was an illustration of the slate in LN volume 1. The rest of what you said may still apply though.
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IIRC, the author based her name off the word "Main", but pronounced it as one would if that was kana-ized literally. The author "chose" Myne after this problem was addressed to her by English translators (when the LN was already ~20 volumes long), but Light Novel and Manga illustrations (as well as the anime) show letters that clearly correspond to "M-A-I-N".
Crunchyroll used Myne for the first episode to stay consistent with the Light Novel, but looks like by Episode 2 they actually noticed how the slate used M-A-I-N and realized the reasoning for her name on their own, and figured the fact Characters already pronounced her name as they did, there wasn't a need for a compromise (which was what "Myne" was)
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@tusf said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
there wasn't a need for a compromise (which was what "Myne" was)
It's not a compromise when it's the official English spelling.
Regardless of the original intentions or motivations, "Myne" is now what her name is. If they're ignoring the English books, that's one thing, but if they know her name is spelled "Myne" in the books and deliberately choose to depart from that, that's just silly.
It's the same as any other anime adaptation where the source material has already been officially released in English - if any character names aren't spelled the way they are in the source, that is a point of discontent for fans, moreso when it's the main character's name.
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@lurkingmclurk and @myskaros thanks for the info didn't know about that and found it really intesting
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I really wish the actual Japanese publisher would step in and correct the whole name issue especially since it could cause problems down the road. For example if the character has two names and someone wishes to purchase merchandise featuring them which name should they search for.
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@eternal-wanderer Welcome to FMP where there has been merch for Tessa with her first name as Teletha and Teresa. Iirc it is spelled as Teresa in the 2nd Raid OVA as well.
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Author fully explains the origin of the name of the main character and the issue of English spelling here.
http://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/372556/blogkey/2269579/
She is describing word playing she did in Japanese so it is a little tricky to translate but let me give it a shot. When I refer to name like (Myne) or (Tuuli), read those as their original Japanese representation and forget about its English spelling. I heavily annotated the original statement to make it somehow understandable without any Japanese knowledge. My annotations are in italic.
Mr Quof asked for my advice regarding the spelling of マイン(Myne) and トゥーリ(Tuuli).
Actually, the origin of the name of (Myne) is rather complicated. It comes from her Japanese name "本須麗乃"(Moto-su Ura-no). That name is made from the phrase "本は須らく、うらのである” .
本は （Hon-wa: Books are)
須らく (Subekaraku: in all cases)
うら の である (Ura-no-dearu: is possession of I)本(Hon) of 本は（Hon-wa) also carry the sound “Moto”
須(Subeka) of 須らく(Subeka-raku) also carry the sound “Su”. Thus makes her family name 本須(moto-su).Author then translate this to modern Japanese: 本は当然私の物である, which means "Books are naturally of my possession."
うら(Ura) is an ancient Japanese word for first person. Adding possession article “の” makes it うらの“possession of I”. The kanji 麗乃 is what we call “ateji”(当て字), that it just pronounced the same but the meaning of the characters are completely different. Those are just chosen because they look nice as a girl’s name.
From this original Japanese meaning, I played word games like this:
“Ura-no = Possession of I” (Japanese)
-> English word “mine” (by the meaning)
-> German word “main” (by the sound similar to English mine, and means “Main Character”)Then put back into Japanese as マイン(ma-i-n) as that is the alphabetic representation of the Japanese pronunciation.
It is word play in Japanese so it would be very difficult to understand by western readers, and those words in English or German cannot be used as names as is.
So Mr. Quof presented me with alternative spellings with same pronunciation and I chose “Myne” from them.
