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Author fully explains the origin of the name of the main character and the issue of English spelling here.
http://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/372556/blogkey/2269579/
She is describing word playing she did in Japanese so it is a little tricky to translate but let me give it a shot. When I refer to name like (Myne) or (Tuuli), read those as their original Japanese representation and forget about its English spelling. I heavily annotated the original statement to make it somehow understandable without any Japanese knowledge. My annotations are in italic.
Mr Quof asked for my advice regarding the spelling of マイン(Myne) and トゥーリ(Tuuli).
Actually, the origin of the name of (Myne) is rather complicated. It comes from her Japanese name "本須麗乃"(Moto-su Ura-no). That name is made from the phrase "本は須らく、うらのである” .
本は （Hon-wa: Books are)
須らく (Subekaraku: in all cases)
うら の である (Ura-no-dearu: is possession of I)本(Hon) of 本は（Hon-wa) also carry the sound “Moto”
須(Subeka) of 須らく(Subeka-raku) also carry the sound “Su”. Thus makes her family name 本須(moto-su).Author then translate this to modern Japanese: 本は当然私の物である, which means "Books are naturally of my possession."
うら(Ura) is an ancient Japanese word for first person. Adding possession article “の” makes it うらの“possession of I”. The kanji 麗乃 is what we call “ateji”(当て字), that it just pronounced the same but the meaning of the characters are completely different. Those are just chosen because they look nice as a girl’s name.
From this original Japanese meaning, I played word games like this:
“Ura-no = Possession of I” (Japanese)
-> English word “mine” (by the meaning)
-> German word “main” (by the sound similar to English mine, and means “Main Character”)Then put back into Japanese as マイン(ma-i-n) as that is the alphabetic representation of the Japanese pronunciation.
It is word play in Japanese so it would be very difficult to understand by western readers, and those words in English or German cannot be used as names as is.
So Mr. Quof presented me with alternative spellings with same pronunciation and I chose “Myne” from them.
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It’s true the voice actors seem to give her name 2 syllables for the pronunciation, like
My-een, so in addition to the chalkboard, I can see why it was changed. Also I very much doubt Crunchyroll has the authority to play around with the romanizations of the different names they subtitle, so there must have been some miscommunication between TO-Books and the anime production committee, which is who CR is in contact with. For My Daughter also had numerous name differences from JNC’s translation, so this is nothing new. -
@legitpancake said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
It’s true the voice actors seem to give her name 2 syllables for the pronunciation, like
My-eenThat's just because there's no way to cleanly say "mine" in Japanese. It has to be combined from "ma" and "i" (long 'e'), and if the director isn't being strict about it, the voice actors might just read it like they would any other instance of "ai" in Japanese, by enunciating each vowel sound.
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Even if the voice actors pronunciation is in question I still think what they are saying sounds a lot more like Myne than Main.
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@eternal-wanderer Effa and Tulli voice actors says it as ma-in, however before reaching a conclusion I want to wait for Benno scolding Myne.
The pace is not fast as I had imagined, by this point I thought for sure Otto would have introduced Benno to Lutz and Myne. Its puzzling that they opted to start the show with Ferdinand as it seems he will barely if any have any screen time this season. -
@renofury said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
@eternal-wanderer
Its puzzling that they opted to start the show with Ferdinand as it seems he will barely if any have any screen time this season.It was puzzling but now I understand why. They needed a narrator to give information of the previous show at the beginning, and chose his voice to do so. Also having fun at the end to inject a little information on what's coming with chibi High Priest and chibi Myne.
That beginning was a good way to introduce this mystery character as somebody who is concerned of Myne and look after her, at the cost of giving up a little spoiling information.
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I do like how they change the art style for characters that are using shampoo vs those that don’t.
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So 5 episodes in and there’s still a couple more scenes before they finish adapting volume 1. I wonder if they’ll keep this pace or start speeding up.
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@legitpancake
Not sure if they can really speed up that much. Without divulging enough details to classify as spoilers I can already think up the next 7 episodes and these cover important plot points.- Interview
- Making
- Delivery
- Junk Jewelry
- Winter Work
- Cake
- Birthday
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@bunnyfufu Sounds about right. That leaves 2 episodes too, the total is 14.
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Ok. Chibi High Priest was over the top in this week's episode.
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"M-M-Main-Chan! Don't you have something to do?!" Lmao best line.
Also hearing DIO voicing Benno will be interesting.And we finally finished volume 1 content, with also the first several chapters of volume 2 adapted after 6 episodes.
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@eternal-wanderer said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
I really wish the actual Japanese publisher would step in and correct the whole name issue especially since it could cause problems down the road. For example if the character has two names and someone wishes to purchase merchandise featuring them which name should they search for.
Too late.
Do you want Ferdinand merchandise or Ferdinando merchandise?
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I am a bit lazy here I know, but do you have any links to Bookworm merchandise I could get sent to the US? Your pic is imploring me to find a website and open my wallet...
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@moredinosaurs
I don't know about shipping but 「https://tobooks.shop-pro.jp/?mode=cate&cbid=2547419&csid=0&sort=n」 is the link to anime merch on the TO BOOKS site. -
Well the anime skipped the paper failures, Myne's letter of gratitude, the pink rose paper, and Myne's origami crane that she gifted to Benno, but we knew they would be skipping some stuff in order for it to be a complete Part 1 adaptation. I particularly felt the "Lutz's Myne" chapter was handled very well this latest episode.
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@lurkingmclurk said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
I don't know about shipping but 「https://tobooks.shop-pro.jp/?mode=cate&cbid=2547419&csid=0&sort=n」 is the link to anime merch on the TO BOOKS site.
I took a look at the ordering page and they can only handle domestic delivery.
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@legitpancake said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
Well the anime skipped the paper failures, Myne's letter of gratitude, the pink rose paper, and Myne's origami crane that she gifted to Benno, but we knew they would be skipping some stuff in order for it to be a complete Part 1 adaptation. I particularly felt the "Lutz's Myne" chapter was handled very well this latest episode.
Due to the paper delivery meeting at the very end of the episode, the next episode will pick right back up at the meeting. There they can do the letter, pretty paper, and origami .... and the her most important reveal - no spoilers, to kick off the next set of stories.
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@hiroto You could be able to use a reshipper, quite a few reasonably priced ones over there.
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Oh, in case anyone didn’t hear the announcement, Crunchyroll will be dubbing this show in English in the near future. So hopefully that gives it a better chance of being released on bluray in the west.
