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    • hirotoH
      hiroto @LegitPancake
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      @legitpancake

      Collaboration in Manga is pretty common. Two manga artists gets together and write a piece mixing characters from two totally different manga, but I don't know if it has been done for anime before. I couldn't find one with a quick search.

      For manga, usually it is just an one off thing, so I assume they'll come up with the single episode merging two stories and characters.

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      • NosgorothN
        Nosgoroth Premium Member @hiroto
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        @hiroto Anime collabs are also common enough. Off the top of my head I can't really think of any recent ones, but one that does come to mind is an official uniform swap picture between Kiniro Mosaic and Yuyushiki with the anime designs.

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        • jcochranJ
          jcochran Premium Member
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          Well, looks like episode 10 of the anime ended at the exact same point as volume 2 of the light novel. Which would be expected since if the producers ignored that cliffhanger potential, they would have been criminally negligent. In any case, a very enjoyable episode.

          Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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          • LegitPancakeL
            LegitPancake Premium Member
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            Crunchyroll also released the first episode with an English dub! I just watched it and thought it was very good.

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            • hirotoH
              hiroto @LegitPancake
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              @legitpancake

              OMG, this is so cute!

              魔術士オーフェンはぐれ旅 × 本好きの下剋上 コラボCM

              It is the CM for the new Orphan anime... introduced by Myne!

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              • hirotoH
                hiroto
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                Came across this lengthy video review of the anime, by an youtuber with 924k subscriber. Hopefully this will translate to some book sales.

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                • stardf29S
                  stardf29 Premium Member @hiroto
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                  @hiroto Considering that the first three volumes of Bookworm made up the Bookwalker weekly top 3 last week, I'd say it's working.

                  MAL
                  Beneath the Tangles (the blog I write for)

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                    BunnyFuFu Premium Member
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                    Anyone else notice that Benno is using the shampoo now?

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                    • hirotoH
                      hiroto
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                      2nd season confirmed. 2020 SPRING!

                      https://twitter.com/anime_booklove/status/1202784776945487873

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                        BunnyFuFu Premium Member @hiroto
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                        @hiroto
                        goods to know, thanks

                        Also I believe their twitter feed also says that episode 13 and 14 will air back to back.

                        Some what spoiler below

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                        • LegitPancakeL
                          LegitPancake Premium Member
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                          Can’t wait! We’ll probably have to assume they’ll try to cram all of part 2 into this second cour, which is a shame, but I trust them after how they handled this first season.
                          Now we’ll just have to see if @Quof will be able to finish part 2 volume 4 before the anime ends in June :)

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                            Quof Translators @LegitPancake
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                            @legitpancake I think I can finish part 2 in time without issue. The question is whether I can also get out the first volume of Part 3 fast enough that when the Part 2 anime ends, people can immediately buy P3V1 (which they will want to do). Also, if they release an anime for Part 3 immediately after, they'll definitely get ahead of me by a volume or two. Then an anime for Part 4 would crush me in a way I would never recover from... Unless it's multiple cours with a break in between, which is possible.

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                            • jcochranJ
                              jcochran Premium Member
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                              Any word on the number of episodes for season 2? If they try Part 2 with a miserly 14 episodes, they're gonna have to skip even more than they did for Part 1. Seems to me that 24 episodes would be a comfortable fit.

                              Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                                Cibastian Premium Member @jcochran
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                                @jcochran from what I've seen and remember they didn't really skip that many major scenes. You can't really get everything into the animation no matter how much people will want it. That said this part - while the volumes maybe aren't as long/longer as p1v3 (or so I've heard) - does get a whole book longer in total, so one can only hope they either get more episodes, or that there are enough small scenes that pad the story and build this wonderful world that can get adjusted to fit without truly hurting the overall image. I'd imagine part 3 anime - should that air - would have to be multiple cours though

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                                • jcochranJ
                                  jcochran Premium Member @Cibastian
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                                  @cibastian Perhaps. One thing that really annoyed me with the anime to date was episode 9 when they really screwed up the timeline. Myne was commissioned to make an hair pin for Frieda's baptism that was coming up in a month. Then the anime does the "one month later" caption for delivery of the hair pin whereas the LN had the construction take less than a week. Totally screwed up the time line there since it left no time at all for all of the events that happen between the delivery and the baptism. So the next episode uses a lot of hand waving and vagueness to deal with those events. Just because some writer doesn't know the difference between a week and a month and make a totally arbitrary and unneeded change.

                                  Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                                  • QuofQ
                                    Quof Translators @Cibastian
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                                    @cibastian I did a character count of the LN series a while back. It's a bit out of date since 4 volumes have come out since then, but the character counts were like so:

                                    Part 1 Vol 1: 186,253
                                    Part 1 Vol 2: 207,955
                                    Part 1 Vol 3: 269,769

                                    Part 2 Vol 1: 229,042
                                    Part 2 Vol 2: 239,992
                                    Part 2 Vol 3: 206,595
                                    Part 2 Vol 4: 207,589

                                    Part 3 Vol 1: 221,338
                                    Part 3 Vol 2: 215,595
                                    Part 3 Vol 3: 212,476
                                    Part 3 Vol 4: 218,981
                                    Part 3 Vol 5: 231,006

                                    Part 4 Vol 1: 244,675
                                    Part 4 Vol 2: 231,135
                                    Part 4 Vol 3: 236,234
                                    Part 4 Vol 4: 212,438
                                    Part 4 Vol 5: 219,434

                                    This is character count, so it's a pure expression of length (no variance between how much text is on a page for instance). As you can see, although P1V3 is the longest in the series, the books pretty steadily hover around 220k-240k which is only a bit smaller than P1V3's 270k. Also, P1V3's length might not be reflected at all in the anime, since it's so long due to like 6 short stories being tacked onto the end whereas the anime might potentially not show any of them.

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                                    • Paul NebelingP
                                      Paul Nebeling Premium Member @hiroto
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                                      @hiroto I'll give a second sighting to that new Orphen anime. I saw it mentioned in an upcoming Winter 2020 anime list on YouTube. I guess that makes three anime I'll be watching in January.

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                                      • hirotoH
                                        hiroto @jcochran
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                                        @jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                                        Just because some writer doesn't know the difference between a week and a month and make a totally arbitrary and unneeded change.

                                        I want to note that Ms Kazuki works pretty closely with all the derivative works of her novel (except translations). She spends lots of time with anime team, sometime even go to their recording sessions. So whatever happening in anime is likely to be sanctioned by the original author.

                                        Anime has tighter constrains than novel does and you cannot put everything in novel into anime, so they need to weave together the essential events to tell the essence of the story, and I guess they felt jumping there one month works to cut out some less important events around that period. I thought it flowed pretty well.

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                                        • jcochranJ
                                          jcochran Premium Member @hiroto
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                                          @hiroto said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                                          @jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
                                          Anime has tighter constrains than novel does and you cannot put everything in novel into anime, so they need to weave together the essential events to tell the essence of the story, and I guess they felt jumping there one month works to cut out some less important events around that period. I thought it flowed pretty well.

                                          It's true that the anime has tighter time constraints. But your argument doesn't work since those events were still put into the anime.
                                          The guildmaster bragging about Frieda's ornaments to rich acquaintances so they in turn pressure Benno for them. The time doesn't exist.
                                          The trombe sprouting and Lutz & Myne getting and processing the bark from it. The time doesn't exist.
                                          Myne adn Lutz making 20 ornaments for Benno. The time doesn't exist.
                                          etc. etc. etc.

                                          All of the above is mentioned/included in the anime in a rather vague and nebulous fashion as regards to time simply because the actual time for those activities doesn't exist because someone decided to allow for a month to pass by instead of a week.

                                          Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                                          • hirotoH
                                            hiroto @jcochran
                                            last edited by hiroto

                                            @jcochran

                                            Apology that I missed your point. You are completely right about "there is no time". Actually, it is worse than you said. Here is the the time line.

                                            • Day 0 - The night Myne returned with the red thread from Freida, with Tuuli and mom's help, and Dad making extra needles, all the red flowers got done.

                                            • Day 1 - The day after, Myne purchase white thread, and all the flowers were done that evening, in addition some green leaves.

                                            • Day 2 - The next day, it was completed with wood part from Lutz. They took them to Benno to look at it, then to the Guild to deliver it, then guild master took them to Freida to deliver directly.

                                            So, it is actually "two days later", not even "a week", and that will leave them with full month of all those events to occur.

                                            Also, it is definitely not translation error. Japanese voice is clearly saying the same thing.

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