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    • jcochranJ
      jcochran Premium Member
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      Love the reaction of Myne's audience when she casually offers the equivalent of $600,000 in order to be allowed to become an apprentice of the temple.

      Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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      • SomeOldGuyS
        SomeOldGuy Premium Member @Paul Nebeling
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        @paul-nebeling We have to hope the author doesn't do anything stupid, like fall off a ladder while moving in to a new home and leaving a series unfinished...

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        • Libri LiberorumL
          Libri Liberorum Premium Member @jcochran
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          @jcochran
          Why do you translate 1 large gold = $600,000? (I agree - my translation is $500,000 which is close enough, I am just interested in how you got there.)

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          • jcochranJ
            jcochran Premium Member @Libri Liberorum
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            @libri-liberorum I didn't. I've seen that figure used elsewhere from a small copper upwards. Their logic seemed reasonable, so I remembered it. Although it may be a bit high since considering it now implies that Gunther makes on the close order of $60,000 per year which seems rather high for their living situation (based upon statement where the two small gold and eight large silver Myne spent for her treatment being about 2.5 years of his pay. That makes his yearly income about one small gold). Given that data point, I now think the 600k is high. Think your 500k is closer since it implies a yearly income of 50k for Gunther.

            Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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              • LurkingMcLurkL
                LurkingMcLurk Member @Libri Liberorum
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                @libri-liberorum I think you meant to post this in the members forum thread for Part 2 Volume 2 and not the anime thread.

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                  Libri Liberorum Premium Member @Libri Liberorum
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                  • Libri LiberorumL
                    Libri Liberorum Premium Member
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                    @lurkingmclurk You are right. Sorry.

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                    • hirotoH
                      hiroto
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                      In Japan, final episodes 13 and 14 are aired in sequence today. I wonder if crunchyroll would manage to do the same.

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                      • LurkingMcLurkL
                        LurkingMcLurk Member
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                        All the end-cards.
                        https://imgur.com/a/AZTW5Tx

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                        • Paul NebelingP
                          Paul Nebeling Premium Member @hiroto
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                          @hiroto Yup. Looking at the page right now.

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                          • jcochranJ
                            jcochran Premium Member @hiroto
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                            @hiroto they did.

                            Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                            • Paul NebelingP
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                              As this cour wraps up, a few things that the anime and the LN translated differently that bug me. The beat-to-death Main-Myne thing tops the list. The High Priest's "demotion" to Head Priest and the High Bishop becoming the High Priest bugs me. And I don't like the visual for the High Bishop. He looks too much like a kindly grandfather type when we all know what kind of an asshole he really is.

                              Edit to add:
                              Chibi High Priest and Myne's after-credit scene cemented the next cour and provided some amusing foreshadowing of the things to come. I must admit that I'm slightly disappointed that we still are, seemingly, still watching the High Priest's mind meld. Couldn't think of a better term for it.

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                              • jcochranJ
                                jcochran Premium Member @Paul Nebeling
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                                @paul-nebeling the translation of the two high ranking clergy into High Priest and High Bishop is a compromise of their actual roles in the LN. And there's a lot of different ways they can be made. Their roles are the High Bishop is in charge of the temple as a whole. And fact, calling him a bishop is giving entirely too authority since a bishop in real life has authority over multiple temples/churches not just one. An the high priest has authority over the clergy in the temple. Basically the HB has administrative control and the HP has religious control. Now in the story, the HB is a lazy entitled piece of crap and doesn't actually do his job, so Ferdinand is stuck with doing both the job of HP and HB, plus coming up with things to keep HB from having a leg to stand on to complain about HP's decisions. And as for his appearance, that's accurate. If he thinks you're rich, or a noble, he's a friendly grandfatherly figure. If he finds out you're not, he's an asshole. But just because he's an asshole, that wouldn't change his appearance.

                                Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                                • Paul NebelingP
                                  Paul Nebeling Premium Member @jcochran
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                                  @jcochran Yeah, I did raise an eyebrow over the "Bishop" title when contrasted to our reality. Still, Ferdinand is in charge of the temple and the one that supervises that position is nominally a Bishop. I'm curious what the original Japanese says. @Quof, can you enlighten us, please?

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                                  • hopebestmanH
                                    hopebestman @Paul Nebeling
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                                    @paul-nebeling High Bishop's visual accually correct. This is quote from Volume 3 when he heard Myne's parents job "He was looking down at my parents with condescending eyes and there wasn’t a trace of his friendly old grandpa expression from just a second ago. It was at that moment that I realized I had only been treated so well due to the power of money, and that in reality we were indeed living in a status-based society."

                                    8 parts, 8 weeks to read a book, than binge read the same book within' 2 hours again.

                                    Myne: Did we deceived him?
                                    Ferdinand: Indeed we did.
                                    Myne: *surprised myneface

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                                      BunnyFuFu Premium Member
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                                      It works either way, but as "High Priest" and "Head Priest" are probably technically better. However as a lazy reader "High" and "Head" are to similar and I kept reading them wrong. I prefer the "High Bishop" and "High Priest".

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                                      • hopebestmanH
                                        hopebestman
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                                        I dont remember in LN conversation with Tulli and Effa about possible execution.I mean that scene was really good in anime.These kind of changes are really good.I really dont watch that anime(skipping a lot) but i guess company who makes that anime loves and knows the series well.

                                        8 parts, 8 weeks to read a book, than binge read the same book within' 2 hours again.

                                        Myne: Did we deceived him?
                                        Ferdinand: Indeed we did.
                                        Myne: *surprised myneface

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                                        • Jon MitchellJ
                                          Jon Mitchell Premium Member @BunnyFuFu
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                                          @bunnyfufu said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                                          works either way, but as "High Priest" and "Head Priest" are probably technically better

                                          in my head the way I visualize the hierarchy of the temple:

                                          High Bishop: If this were a catholic parish, he'd be the pastor
                                          High Priest (Ferdinand) : the highest ranking parochial vicar (Most senior 'regular' priest)
                                          "Blue Robes": Deacons
                                          "Grey Robes": Monk (lay brothers) / Nun
                                          servants without robes: members of the lay ministry

                                          it's easy in my mind to keep the 'routes' separate in my mind if I think the Nobles/Commoner dichotomy parallels some old fashioned hierarchies in Roman Catholicism (prior to the 1960's)

                                          a monk (lay brother) generally does not 'graduate' into becoming a priest, a nun can't become a priest- this is similar to the role 'grey robes' have in Bookworm

                                          Deacons (if male/ unmarried and take a vow of celibacy can be ordained into the priesthood) similar to the role a 'regular' blue robe has

                                          Myne would be an acolyte (deacon in training, or a student training to become a priest) or a postulant, an entrant to a monastic order who has not yet taken vows

                                          I read banned books

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                                          • Paul NebelingP
                                            Paul Nebeling Premium Member @hopebestman
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                                            @hopebestman That would indicate they got it (his visual) right. Once we figure out his game, we aren't supposed to like him. Kudos to the animation team for managing to convey Myne's changing attitude without resorting to something like a voiceover commentary. Her voice while she was powered up was creepy as anything too.

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