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    • Libri LiberorumL
      Libri Liberorum Premium Member
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      Scary Myne is scary. Let's hope she isn't needed again.

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      • Libri LiberorumL
        Libri Liberorum Premium Member @BunnyFuFu
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        @bunnyfufu said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

        It works either way, but as "High Priest" and "Head Priest" are probably technically better. However as a lazy reader "High" and "Head" are to similar and I kept reading them wrong. I prefer the "High Bishop" and "High Priest".

        I'd like "bishop" and "head priest". It better describes what HP does and makes it clear which is the overall boss.

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        • hirotoH
          hiroto @Libri Liberorum
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          @libri-liberorum said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

          Scary Myne is scary. Let's hope she isn't needed again.

          Yeah, seriously. They went overboard with the voice effect.

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          • QuofQ
            Quof Translators @Paul Nebeling
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            @paul-nebeling They're "Head Priest" for High Priest and "Head of Temple/Temple Head" for High Bishop respectively. 神官長 / 神殿長. The moment the anime started I knew these terms would end up different in the anime since I took such big leaps with the phrasing. Their names are fairly similar (Shinkan-chou and Shinden-chou) so I went with giving them both "High X". How to translate "Temple Head" was a question I spent far too long debating. I couldn't think of a single way to keep "Temple" in it and maintain a dignified, concise title that sounded like it could realistically be a position. After some discussion I ultimately rolled with High Bishop, since indeed the Temple Head is a higher position than the Head Priest, and I think that bishops are universally understood to be a higher position than priests. The High Bishop doesn't fulfill the same role a real-life bishop does, but I figure that's fine since names are used loosely as inspiration in this kind of way often.

            The, uh, the High Bishop being called the High Priest isn't great. I could understand them doing something like "Temple Head" and abandoning High Bishop, which would be totally fine as a different interpretation, but High Priest for "Temple Head" definitely gives off the wrong impression I think. The two terms are definitely a bit too easy to confuse, too.

            I'm actually wondering if the style guide I gave crunchyroll might have been misinterpreted (since "High X" was something I invented on my own, the terms literally are just "Head/Boss")... Oh well.

            Edit: Oh wow. I think it's almost 100% certain that they misread the glossary https://i.imgur.com/qkLtDxp.jpg . I was trying to say "High Priest (don't use Head Priest)" but I think it was interpreted as "High Priest (this is not the head priest! it's the other guy!)". Darn. If only I could just talk to the translator.

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              BunnyFuFu Premium Member @Paul Nebeling
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              @paul-nebeling
              That was new material.

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                Paul Nebeling Premium Member @BunnyFuFu
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                @bunnyfufu I'm not sure it was new material as much as an artistic interpretation in a different media. As @hopebestman said, that scene was described in volume 3, but Myne's observation was internalized dialog which was not put into the anime. They did it (quite well) with her facial expressions.

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                  BunnyFuFu Premium Member @Paul Nebeling
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                  @paul-nebeling
                  Ah, meant to reply to @hopebestman message about Tulli and Effa heart-to-heart before the meeting with the church. That was new.

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                  • jcochranJ
                    jcochran Premium Member
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                    Now it's time to start waiting....
                    Did a bit of searching and found out that there's 2 OVAs scheduled.

                    See this for details

                    spoiler

                    Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                    • hirotoH
                      hiroto @jcochran
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                      @jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                      Now it's time to start waiting....
                      Did a bit of searching and found out that there's 2 OVAs scheduled.

                      See this for details

                      spoiler

                      They did a weird thing with this OVA. Why creates OVAs which will spoil the future season, such that you are only distributing it as part of Part 5 print book purchase (presumably, people already read Part 3 so won't get spoiled)? Pretty weird.

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                        Jason Maranto
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                        Overall it was mostly acceptable, though I am not a fan of the rushed, cut or reshuffled scenes near the end... I feel it lost the slow-burn "Slice Of Life" feel too much.

                        No question the LN is FAR superior. It seems very few anime adaptations of even highly popular source LN's get the respectful treatments they deserve. At least it was MUCH more faithful than Arifureta.

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                        • jcochranJ
                          jcochran Premium Member @hiroto
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                          @hiroto Can't really call it a spoiler. One of the OVA's is a side story in P1V3, so it obviously doesn't spoil anything and the other OVA which is also a side story in P3V2 portrays an obvious activity that has to happen between P1V3 and P2V1 and in fact is referenced in the first conversation Ferdinand has with Myne in the beginning of P2V1. The only potential "spoiler" would be the possible introduction of characters that aren't introduced into the main story line until later. I haven't seen the side story, but given the volume it's placed in I suspect that some Japanese fans basically asked "We see that Ferdinand did X. Can you please tell us more about X?" and the author figured there was enough demand for it and decided that it was worth doing as a side story framed as a flash back.

                          Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                          • hirotoH
                            hiroto
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                            @jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                            . The only potential "spoiler" would be the possible introduction of characters that aren't introduced into the main story line until later.

                            It is hugely spoiling. The story only make sense after learning about all those new characters we don't know yet. This story is written as a flash back after having that knowledge. Flash back taken out of the order is that you'll exposed to emotion of people without knowing those people and relationships. It is a very nice side story in that context so I like LN readers to enjoy it at the right moment.

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                            • jcochranJ
                              jcochran Premium Member @hiroto
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                              @hiroto said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                              @jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                              . The only potential "spoiler" would be the possible introduction of characters that aren't introduced into the main story line until later.

                              It is hugely spoiling. The story only make sense after learning about all those new characters we don't know yet. This story is written as a flash back after having that knowledge. Flash back taken out of the order is that you'll exposed to emotion of people without knowing those people and relationships. It is a very nice side story in that context so I like LN readers to enjoy it at the right moment.

                              Well, the makers of the anime do have a precedent, given their introduction of Ferdinand in the first episode of the anime. With that data point, I gonna make an wild ass assumption that whatever characters the OVA introduces are wildly popular in Japan.

                              Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                              • lighthawk96L
                                lighthawk96 Premium Member
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                                So... The part where Myne uses the crushing on the Head Bishop was totally awesome! Better than what I was expecting. Very Dark Vader esque. Great end to the first ark of the story!

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                                  hopebestman @lighthawk96
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                                  @lighthawk96 said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                                  So... The part where Myne uses the crushing on the Head Bishop was totally awesome! Better than what I was expecting. Very Dark Vader esque. Great end to the first ark of the story!

                                  i didnt feel that much in LN.I mean sure even in there it was intense but man , seeing her like that.She only needed James Earl Jones voice.

                                  8 parts, 8 weeks to read a book, than binge read the same book within' 2 hours again.

                                  Myne: Did we deceived him?
                                  Ferdinand: Indeed we did.
                                  Myne: *surprised myneface

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                                  • lighthawk96L
                                    lighthawk96 Premium Member @hopebestman
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                                    @hopebestman Exactly!!!!! But the way they did her voice really did do the scene justice!

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                                    • crowdcontrolC
                                      crowdcontrol @jcochran
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                                      @jcochran this is how I calculate it
                                      If 1 lyon = 1 YEN
                                      then 100 YEN = 1 USD
                                      Gunther makes 1 Large Silver per month, thus 12 Large Silver per year which is equal to 1 Small Gold and 2 Large Silver per year
                                      That's about 1,200,000 Lyon or $12000 USD per year

                                      other cost for reference
                                      1 skin paper parchment cost 1 Small Gold
                                      1 skin paper contract cost 1 Large Silver
                                      1 skin postcard paper cost about 1 Small Silver
                                      Myne's Forin postcard prototype paper cost 2 Small Silver
                                      Myne's Torombe postcard prototype paper cost 4 Small Silver
                                      Myne had about 2 Large Gold saved up before she offer her 1 Large Gold donations to the Temple, which means she planned to offer 1 Large Gold to her family. Myne have already saved 20 years worth of Gunther's salary. Her temple donation was about 10 million lyons or $100k USD

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                                      • hopebestmanH
                                        hopebestman @crowdcontrol
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                                        @crowdcontrol Oh , i did this conversation when in anime showed Myne's profit.

                                        I dont know links are allowed but first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPraK8lPR8&lc=z235etc55z20hdkj504t1aokgms010ahahluuclegpxjrk0h00410.1575928081090169

                                        Comment section!!!!!!!

                                        1 small copper = $0.3
                                        1 medium copper = $3
                                        1 large copper = $30
                                        1 small silver = $300
                                        1 large silver = $3 000
                                        1 small gold = $30 000
                                        1 large gold = $300 000

                                        This is based on from magic tool episode. Gunter's salary , 2.8 gold and etc. Also , based on US Army Captain Salary stuff.

                                        PS:I didnt calculate this.This is purely Alexander Nielsen 's doing in youtube.

                                        8 parts, 8 weeks to read a book, than binge read the same book within' 2 hours again.

                                        Myne: Did we deceived him?
                                        Ferdinand: Indeed we did.
                                        Myne: *surprised myneface

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                                        • crowdcontrolC
                                          crowdcontrol @hopebestman
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                                          @hopebestman I don't think we should use his conversion table of US army captain salary as a base. The YEN system is much simpler since the author is from Japan

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                                          • hopebestmanH
                                            hopebestman
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                                            @crowdcontrol the guy was american :D

                                            2 small gold and 8 large silver correspond to two and a half years of her dad's pay, this leads to Gunther having an average pay of 9.3 small silver per month.Yeah yeah , "1 large silver his a month of salary" but these all "a month , 2.5 years" talk is not spesific talk.Also "yen system is much simpler" if you wanna use yen you could change the 0.3$ to yen.And even autor is Japanese she created that world based on medieval europe(someone wrote spesific countries but you got my point). If we wanna make these stuff much much realistic :D we should use euro and based on Austria Captain Salary :D

                                            And a note ; because of japanese curent sitution. I couldnt find spesific information about their ARMY salary and stuff.I dont know much about their "self-defence force" thing.So for easily understanding based on US would be much simpler.But again , this calculations are not mine , so i dont have that much to talk around :D

                                            8 parts, 8 weeks to read a book, than binge read the same book within' 2 hours again.

                                            Myne: Did we deceived him?
                                            Ferdinand: Indeed we did.
                                            Myne: *surprised myneface

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