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    • SomeOldGuyS
      SomeOldGuy Premium Member @LegitPancake
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      @legitpancake That's kind of what I'm afraid of. I have a dislike of subscription streaming, preferring to do my own streaming of stuff I buy.

      By all accounts, my current library is bigger than any of the streaming services in terms of total titles, if not current titles. It doesn't go away if my internet has problems, either. Or when the streaming service can't re-license it.

      This is one title I really want to have...

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      • Libri LiberorumL
        Libri Liberorum Premium Member
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        The anime makes great use of shadows. For example, episode 2 13:40 onwards as Main and family head out to the pig killing (fully shadowed in town as the sun has not yet risen above the walls, to sunlight outside the gate, carefully paying attention to which direction each character is facing) and episode 7 around 12 minutes when Lutz first questions who Main is.

        As an aside: the light novels spend several pages on candle making and Main's attempts at improvements, which in the anime is reduced to a single still image in ep 2 13:37. And I missed first time through that at 13:40 both sub and dub reference the song 'Donna Donna'. This reference is not in the LN.

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        • Libri LiberorumL
          Libri Liberorum Premium Member @Libri Liberorum
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          @libri-liberorum
          And here is Donna Donna in Japanese:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0w-g2733Vk

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          • hirotoH
            hiroto @Libri Liberorum
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            @libri-liberorum said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

            And I missed first time through that at 13:40 both sub and dub reference the song 'Donna Donna'. This reference is not in the LN.

            It did exist in original LN, and localized this way:

            > I followed him to the Gilberta Company like a fearful lamb to the slaughter. Benno was waiting for us and we were taken to his office immediately.

            EDIT

            That was a wrong volume, also using Donna Donna. It is this one.

            Which is why I was currently sitting inside the back of a covered wagon between the loads of stuff packed into it.

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            • hirotoH
              hiroto
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              Result of Fall 2019 anime popularity vote which took place 12/19/19 - 1/5/20.

              Total votes: 35986

              1. Ascendance of a Bookworm - 6539

              2. Rifle is Beautiful - 3439

              3. Kemono Michi - 3066

              4. Nurupeta - 2855

              5. After School Dice Club - 2662

              Source: https://akiba-souken.com/anime/vote/v_2792/

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              • crowdcontrolC
                crowdcontrol
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                The 20-minute side story OVA is split into two parts covering the stories "Justok's Downtown Invasion" and "Corinna's House Visit.” The OVA will be bundled with the limited edition version of the 22nd light novel and the start of the fifth story arc, Incarnation of the Goddess. The novel, along with the OVA, goes on sale on March 10 in Japan.

                https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2020/01/07/page-turning-preview-of-ascendance-of-a-bookworm-side-story-anime-ova-gets-printed-online?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+crunchyroll%2Fanimenews+(Latest+in+Anime+News+by+Crunchyroll!)

                Which volume is Justok's Downton Invasion? Contains characters not in the translated Light novel yet. I think Justok is a magic user and a spy that is looking for information on Myne at Ehrenfest

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                • LurkingMcLurkL
                  LurkingMcLurk Member @crowdcontrol
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                  @crowdcontrol
                  It’s from the end of Part 3 Volume 2.

                  spoiler
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                  • hirotoH
                    hiroto
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                    They released teaser for the OVA.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmjSLUfp6Jw

                    Pretty cruel to release this for OVA only bundled with P5V1 book special bundle.

                    Interestingly, or understandably, this is shown on TOBOOKS youtube channel (which is not very active), and not through the regular channel used for anime teasers, so this is more of book promotion rather than anime promotion.

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                    • Libri LiberorumL
                      Libri Liberorum Premium Member
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                      I had a thought on rewatching the 'meeting' episode. What if I was a traveling trader with no citizenship, but with a family. Near my kid's 7th birthday, I could bring them to town, dress them up and send them to the baptism, so they get magically registered citizenship. The temple just gets a crowd of kids and registers them all.

                      The probable solution to this is that there were checks of some sort happening that didn't get shown because it would be boring.

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                      • jcochranJ
                        jcochran Premium Member @Libri Liberorum
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                        @libri-liberorum said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                        I had a thought on rewatching the 'meeting' episode. What if I was a traveling trader with no citizenship, but with a family. Near my kid's 7th birthday, I could bring them to town, dress them up and send them to the baptism, so they get magically registered citizenship. The temple just gets a crowd of kids and registers them all.

                        The probable solution to this is that there were checks of some sort happening that didn't get shown because it would be boring.

                        That would be an interesting trick. But there are some issues it would raise when you consider things said earlier in the series.
                        First, why would Lutz be required to give up his citizenship if he became a traveling merchant? That implies that if you leave the city for some length of time, you lose your citizenship. And I suspect that the merchant's children wouldn't have a residence within the city where they could live. Which leads to:
                        Second, where would the traveling merchant live? His child may have citizenship, but he doesn't.

                        Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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                        • hopebestmanH
                          hopebestman @jcochran
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                          @jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                          @libri-liberorum said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                          That would be an interesting trick. But there are some issues it would raise when you consider things said earlier in the series.
                          First, why would Lutz be required to give up his citizenship if he became a traveling merchant? That implies that if you leave the city for some length of time, you lose your citizenship. And I suspect that the merchant's children wouldn't have a residence within the city where they could live. Which leads to:
                          Second, where would the traveling merchant live? His child may have citizenship, but he doesn't.

                          Thats the only confusing thing in the series , at least for me. People can leave city. I mean Benno will open another shop from another city and puts Lutz on it. So what is the rule? Maybe citizenship is not what are we think. Or Otto and Benno werent talk about it. Traveling merchents have to leave city and have to go far far away from their home. One city to another. Always on the road , always buying and selling stuff. So if Lutz become traveling merchent he has to leave the city and has to travel along time. So even he has citizenship he couldnt be in the city. Writer didnt give us info about it and i dont think she will give in the future. Like you said , is there a time limit? What if i left Benno would left the city for fun? He could put Lutz or Corrina in charge to shop. He could leave and see new cities or stuff? Is there a limit? Is there a problem?

                          Last thing ,

                          Second, where would the traveling merchant live?

                          As i saw in Spice&Wolf , maybe in cart? At night , traveling M. could camping?

                          8 parts, 8 weeks to read a book, than binge read the same book within' 2 hours again.

                          Myne: Did we deceived him?
                          Ferdinand: Indeed we did.
                          Myne: *surprised myneface

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                          • Libri LiberorumL
                            Libri Liberorum Premium Member @jcochran
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                            @jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                            That would be an interesting trick. But there are some issues it would raise when you consider things said earlier in the series.
                            First, why would Lutz be required to give up his citizenship if he became a traveling merchant? That implies that if you leave the city for some length of time, you lose your citizenship. And I suspect that the merchant's children wouldn't have a residence within the city where they could live. Which leads to:
                            Second, where would the traveling merchant live? His child may have citizenship, but he doesn't.

                            Good points. New plan: a clan of traveling merchants band together to buy citizenship for just one of them, who then does a lot of child minding for the rest of the clan. The clan's children all age into being citizens.

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                            • Libri LiberorumL
                              Libri Liberorum Premium Member @hopebestman
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                              @hopebestman said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                              Thats the only confusing thing in the series , at least for me. People can leave city. I mean Benno will open another shop from another city and puts Lutz on it. So what is the rule? Maybe citizenship is not what are we think. Or Otto and Benno werent talk about it. Traveling merchents have to leave city and have to go far far away from their home. One city to another. Always on the road , always buying and selling stuff. So if Lutz become traveling merchent he has to leave the city and has to travel along time. So even he has citizenship he couldnt be in the city. Writer didnt give us info about it and i dont think she will give in the future. Like you said , is there a time limit? What if i left Benno would left the city for fun? He could put Lutz or Corrina in charge to shop. He could leave and see new cities or stuff? Is there a limit? Is there a problem?

                              While I love this series, there are some flaws in the world building, and the citizenship and poor traveling merchants I think aren't too well thought out. Our history says that traveling merchants often make a lot of money, and cities which have many such merchants prosper (e.g. Venice) so cities should welcome them. Maybe Myne will do this with the first city she takes control of.

                              Given that citizens have been magically registered, the city walls are imbued with magic, and magic in this world is quite good at information technology tasks, it is quite conceivable that citizens' entries and exits of the city are automatically registered, so a residency requirement to maintain citizenship could be automatically administered.

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                              • LurkingMcLurkL
                                LurkingMcLurk Member
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                                Seems like we’re going to get some information about the Part 2 adaption in seventeen hours. Hopefully it’ll be some nice BD information that confirms well in advanced what they intend to cover in Spring 2020, just like what we got for the Autumn 2019 anime.
                                https://twitter.com/anime_booklove/status/1215196513736982528?s=21

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                                • hopebestmanH
                                  hopebestman @Libri Liberorum
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                                  @libri-liberorum could be. Like you said we dont have any clue but t.merchents and citizenships. But the main reason again like you said should be magic. We dont know what the heck is that , how its work and which areas could be work. I am waiting Part 3 for that. We only knew magic as contract in Part 1 , now we know couple areas which used , in Part 3 world will change for us and for Myne :D

                                  8 parts, 8 weeks to read a book, than binge read the same book within' 2 hours again.

                                  Myne: Did we deceived him?
                                  Ferdinand: Indeed we did.
                                  Myne: *surprised myneface

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                                  • Jon MitchellJ
                                    Jon Mitchell Premium Member
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                                    I suspect (but don't know) that citizenship is tied to ability to register with a guild, sign contracts, do business, own property, and get protection form the local lord. Travelling merchants probably don't get some or all of those benefits or have to pay for them in each town they visit. (Like the have to pay surcharges to the local guilds to do business, or fees to use roads, gain entry to other towns) I also suspect that protection of the local lord/ government etc. is important/valuable - the knights' order or town guards get dispatched to deal with magical disturbances, bandits whatnot, and without citizenship you are on your own. I think it was also implied that there is an issue with non-citizens being able to marry a citizen (or stay within the town if not a citizen)

                                    I read banned books

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                                    • JustaidanJ
                                      Justaidan Premium Member
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                                      @hopebestman said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                                      Maybe citizenship is not what are we think.

                                      It's not but not even fully explained in the LN yet. The registration is done the same was as the guild card. One thing skipped over in the anime is that the magic contract Benno, Myne and Lutz signed will affect all citizens of the city it was signed in. So if anyone tries to sell a Myne workshop product not through Lutz or reproduce plant-based paper the one doing so could be injured or killed by the contract they have.

                                      Magic contracts need to be cleared with the Archduke of the city and cost a substantial amount (1-2 large golds).

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                                        sniper_samurai Premium Member @Justaidan
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                                        @justaidan I think selling Mynes products through Lutz only applies to the initial sale.

                                        This was why later in Part 2

                                        spoiler
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                                        • JustaidanJ
                                          Justaidan Premium Member @sniper_samurai
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                                          @sniper_samurai

                                          spoiler

                                          One thing jumped over in the anime is that Myne starts getting really good at negotiation, management, planning and all those types of skills.

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                                            There is also a major world building items the anime skipped. For example the magical plants and animals.

                                            While there was a hints of it with the trombe and parues. The anime skipped a part where the "radish" would scream when cut, or magical creatures that contain "mana crystal". Creatures that would melt if you nicked the crystal inside while butchering it, or how their eye would change to rainbow color if mad.

                                            So the world on Bookworm is a lot more fantasy then the anime lets on. So it is probably a lot more dangerous out in wild then the anime lets on. So being in the city probably have a lot more benefits then we know.

                                            Also traveling merchants can probably be thought of as small mom and pop operations, there are probable larger organized merchant groups that handle the bulk of the trading between cities. Traveling merchants probable deal with all the smaller towns and villages.

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