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    • db0ssmanD
      db0ssman Member @jcochran
      last edited by myskaros

      @jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

      @rsog412 problem is that giving blue robes to Myne was agreed to in P1V3. And at that time no one knew Myne had a crazy amount of mana, so there was no reason to get archduke involved. Now I agree that it's possible that the archduke was informed about the decision sometime between P1V3 and P2V1, but he didn't participate in the decision since it had already been made.

      spoiler

      Admin edit: Please don't spoil stuff that hasn't happened/been revealed in the anime yet.

      Shift World Web Novel

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      • jcochranJ
        jcochran Premium Member @db0ssman
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        @db0ssman the decision to grant Myne blue robes was made in P1V3 and the interactions between Ferdinand, the HB, and Myne are such that consulting with the archduke was impossible (problem raised, solution proposed during same face to face meeting. No external consultation possible). Now as I said, the archduke could have been informed about the decision sometime between P1V3 and P2V1, but at best the archduke's involvement can be that he didn't veto the decision that was already made.

        Morning and Mourning sound alike for good and sufficient reasons.

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          rsog412 Premium Member @jcochran
          last edited by rsog412

          @jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

          @rsog412 problem is that giving blue robes to Myne was agreed to in P1V3. And at that time no one knew Myne had a crazy amount of mana, so there was no reason to get archduke involved. Now I agree that it's possible that the archduke was informed about the decision sometime between P1V3 and P2V1, but he didn't participate in the decision since it had already been made.

          Here's the exact quote from P2V1's prologue, which takes place immediately after P1V3 ends.

          “As discussed prior, I prepared a pair of blue robes for her. Likewise, as discussed prior, she will maintain magic tools and be given work in the book room which she so desired to enter.” Ferdinand repeatedly emphasized that the terms were all what they had discussed prior to the incident. Perhaps due to his age, the High Bishop had a tendency to conveniently forget what he himself had said.

          (To avoid confusion with "High Priest/Head Priest" and "High Bishop/High Priest", I'm going to call them by their names, though Brazenwest's name could still be considered a minor spoiler from the anime. The Archduke will just be called the Archduke, because his name would be a major spoiler still.)

          It sounds to me like Ferdinand and the Brazenwest already understood that Myne had mana (and money) that they needed before that point, and Brazenwest had already agreed to take her as a blue robed shrine maiden.

          While Myne went into the discussions assuming that getting them to accept her as a blue shrine maiden was going to be a tough sell, the Ferdinand and Brazenwest had already discussed internally and decided that it was acceptable. This doesn't prove that the Archduke was involved in those discussions, but it seems likely to me that they would have needed his approval to break from precedent and give a commoner blue robes. (Allowing her to commute from home, by contrast, wasn't something they considered, so Ferdinand had to justify himself to Brazenwest for accepting that condition.)

          It's not immediately clear to me why the Archduke (or, for that matter, Brazenwest) agreed to it, since yes, they didn't know at that point just how much mana she had, nor did they know about her otherworld knowledge at the time. It's possible that Ferdinand recognized her intelligence from the short time he spent reading with her, and wanted to bring her up as a political ally. It's also possible that the church was just so short of mana that they'd resort to desperate measures for any amount more.

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            LurkingMcLurk Member @rsog412
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            @rsog412

            Brazenwest

            Bezewanst

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            • Paul NebelingP
              Paul Nebeling Premium Member
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              Ok. This is going in a spoiler tag, because from the anime POV, it's a spoiler. From the LN POV, it's speculation.

              spoiler
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                Caroline @Paul Nebeling
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                @Paul-Nebeling I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of their usual plots. If you remember they are some plots they've pulled off while pretending to be completely ignorant of what's going one. It could happen, her joining the temple might have been one of their plots.

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                • Paul NebelingP
                  Paul Nebeling Premium Member @Caroline
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                  @Caroline I don't know if I would go that far. After all, Myne hadn't even considered joining the Temple until after she saw the book room.

                  Then again, they are brothers...

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                    Caroline @Paul Nebeling
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                    @Paul-Nebeling In the anime; specifically the baptism arc, after they take a blood, there is a part where Ferdinand looks at her suspiciously and before that she had already produced plant paper an important commodity like that wouldn't fail to catch the eye of a Noble but it's all speculation so I don't know. You could call it one of my theories.

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                    • RollindR
                      Rollind @Caroline
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                      @Caroline In P3V1 part 2 it explains why he looked at her suspiciously during that time.

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                      • MasterLillyclawM
                        MasterLillyclaw Premium Member
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                        In the last chapter of P1V3 (post-Crushing of the High Bishop) Ferdinand says "I will prepare blue robes for her. Her primary job will be the upkeep of magic tools, just like our noble apprentices. That was what we initially had intended to do had the High Bishop not lost his mind, after all."

                        I guess this is a bit ambiguous, because he says "that" was what they intended; it could mean [upkeep of tools] only, or [preparing blue robes, with upkeep of tools]. My original interpretation was that they had gotten permission for blue robes in the first place, which was why he was so agreeable to it, but I could be incorrect.

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                        • hirotoH
                          hiroto
                          last edited by hiroto

                          So, there is this bookworm anime streaming event in Japan where there are interview of the casts, and then Kazuki-sensei also participating as a guest. She just tweeted an additional information:

                          https://twitter.com/miyakazuki01/status/1281418272366137344

                          For Niconico live streaming special event on Sunday, I freshly wrote a mini-dialogue between Myne and Ferdinand.
                          Which is kind of like an anime preview trailer.
                          It will be presented by Iguchi-san and Hayami-san. Enjoy!

                          Season 3 announcement???

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                          • hirotoH
                            hiroto
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                            Now, the bookworm anime official tweet says "Big announcement coming." (さらに重大発表も)

                            https://twitter.com/anime_booklove/status/1282117474171813888

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                            • LurkingMcLurkL
                              LurkingMcLurk Member
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                              Third Cour
                              https://twitter.com/anime_booklove/status/1282271086294388741

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                              • hirotoH
                                hiroto @LurkingMcLurk
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                                @LurkingMcLurk said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                                Third Cour
                                https://twitter.com/anime_booklove/status/1282271086294388741

                                Only thing it is confirming is that production will happen. No date or anything. I don't think it is happening this fall.

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                                • OpalO
                                  Opal Member @hiroto
                                  last edited by Opal

                                  @hiroto said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

                                  Only thing it is confirming is that production will happen. No date or anything. I don't think it is happening this fall.

                                  At least it is happening \o/
                                  I'm super happy as long as it's happening, even if I have to wait till spring or winter.
                                  Edit: there are a few scenes I'd like to see animated. 😊

                                  ... For PONY!

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                                    Paul Nebeling Premium Member @Opal
                                    last edited by Rahul Balaggan

                                    @Opal

                                    spoiler
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                                    • OpalO
                                      Opal Member @Paul Nebeling
                                      last edited by Opal

                                      @Paul-Nebeling exactly! - and a few more 😊

                                      ... For PONY!

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                                      • LurkingMcLurkL
                                        LurkingMcLurk Member
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                                        I can't wait for Crunchyroll to give us

                                        spoiler

                                        Sadistically I want them to begin this season with a fast forward to the Epilogue of the concluding volume again.
                                        Now that we know Part 2 will be fully animated I hope Sam sees this as good enough justification to licensed the Part 3 manga before finishing the Part 2 manga plus we need to make sure to crush Quof under his workload.

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                                        • db0ssmanD
                                          db0ssman Member
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                                          https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2020/07/12-1/3rd-season-of-ascendance-of-a-bookworm-tv-anime-announced

                                          I think I might be too much of a dork because I read this little excerpt on Crunchyroll's website and noticed the author must also read the light novels like an alpha chad. He wrote 'Myne' like a true man of culture and not 'Main' like a filthy heathen.

                                          Shift World Web Novel

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                                          • crowdcontrolC
                                            crowdcontrol
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                                            I wish they gave another studio to do season 3. Like the studio doing Wandering Witch anime. Now that had great art and atmosphere

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