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    • WindsagioW
      Windsagio Premium Member @myskaros
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      @myskaros That's more than fair, but we all have our own taste y'know?

      I'll leave it at that though, arguing with staff and mods is a bad look.

      Logic is out, Unreasonableness is in!

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        Kotenmaru Premium Member @saskir
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        @saskir said in Black Summoner Anime Discussion:

        My problem is not with the R/L problematic. More that someone doesn't use the established translation of the name.

        This is my biggest problem with using Leo, they had at least 8+ volumes of fully translated LNs, and another 5+ Manga volumes to use and decided they knew better than established material.

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        • TheGrimLichT
          TheGrimLich Member
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          Also, Leo doesn't even work with the revealed "full name" unless they go with

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          which... no. Why. Why would you do that. Also I did a quick google and... uh... Leon appears to be a boy's name. Which is probably how they'd anglicize Rion's name if they're giving Rio the name "Leo".

          My grasp on sanity remains absolute.

          Oh, right, the poison, the poison for Kuzco, the poison chosen especially to kill Kuzco, Kuzco's poison. ...That poison?

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            Kotenmaru Premium Member @TheGrimLich
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            @TheGrimLich If they shift Rion because of Leo, I can see them using Leone or Leona. Granted, if they do that, my friend will probably laugh at me for bitching about the translation again.

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              saskir Premium Member @Kotenmaru
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              @Kotenmaru said in Black Summoner Anime Discussion:

              @TheGrimLich If they shift Rion because of Leo, I can see them using Leone or Leona. Granted, if they do that, my friend will probably laugh at me for bitching about the translation again.

              Hmmm, never heard Leo as a female name (although it seems to give some who are named like this). Which would make the choosing of this name a moot point. Besides I don't think a japanese female would be called Leo. Now if Rion would be English (Leonora) or German (Leonore/Leonie) then it would be another point.

              But my standpoint stands. Why did the translator team of the anime not use the established name.

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              • Geezer WeasalopesG
                Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @saskir
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                @saskir said in Black Summoner Anime Discussion:

                But my standpoint stands. Why did the translator team of the anime not use the established name.

                Because they don't have to. [Thems the facts.]
                They know better. [Um, this happens. As an attitude, at least. On occasion it's even correct.]
                What established name? [This last is semi-serious; consider that maybe, just maybe, the folks producing the subs haven't read the source materials in translation.]

                The HonZuki Fandom feels your pain. [We do. The name of the f-ing main character?!]

                All your libraries are belong to us. | Those who do not read shall not eat.
                Help me, Satomi-san. You're my only hope. | Fight! Yurika!
                Croquettes, Baguettes, and Books, oh my!

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                  Kotenmaru Premium Member @saskir
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                  @saskir I'm not saying that they'll call her Leo. I'm saying that because she changed her name to Rion because of how close it was to Rio (who the translation/subtitle team of the anime calls Leo), I was speculating what they might end up calling her if they change her name.

                  @Geezer-Weasalopes Those are valid points. As for the HonZuki Fandom, my thoughts go out to you. That would drive me beyond nuts and possibly kill the anime for me.

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                  • Geezer WeasalopesG
                    Geezer Weasalopes Premium Member @Kotenmaru
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                    @Kotenmaru said in Black Summoner Anime Discussion:

                    @Geezer-Weasalopes Those are valid points. As for the HonZuki Fandom, my thoughts go out to you. That would drive me beyond nuts and possibly kill the anime for me.

                    While it torqued us off, the anime is just too well done for bad subs to drive us away.
                    But we remember.

                    All your libraries are belong to us. | Those who do not read shall not eat.
                    Help me, Satomi-san. You're my only hope. | Fight! Yurika!
                    Croquettes, Baguettes, and Books, oh my!

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                    • TheGrimLichT
                      TheGrimLich Member @Geezer Weasalopes
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                      @Geezer-Weasalopes said in Black Summoner Anime Discussion:

                      The HonZuki Fandom feels your pain. [We do. The name of the f-ing main character?!]

                      To be absolutely fair to Crunchyroll's sub team and their poor choice of naming localization, Bookworm S1 premiered at the same time as Shield Hero S1. Which... while nobody smart would ever confuse those two characters, anime isn't just watched by smart people.

                      My grasp on sanity remains absolute.

                      Oh, right, the poison, the poison for Kuzco, the poison chosen especially to kill Kuzco, Kuzco's poison. ...That poison?

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                      • saskirS
                        saskir Premium Member @Kotenmaru
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                        @Kotenmaru said in Black Summoner Anime Discussion:

                        @saskir I'm not saying that they'll call her Leo. I'm saying that because she changed her name to Rion because of how close it was to Rio (who the translation/subtitle team of the anime calls Leo), I was speculating what they might end up calling her if they change her name.

                        I was only musing what they do about this part. Either they can be lucky and it is even in the anime or they really need to change her name first to Leo for this joke to work (or they make a footnote, which I never saw in official translations, only in fansubs) how close both name are and that it could be the same.

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                          Kotenmaru Premium Member
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                          The flashbacks in this episode hit all the harder after the newest part of the LN. Poor Victor, I still wish he had taken Kelvin up on his offer.

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                            endoftheline @Kotenmaru
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                            @Kotenmaru Not necessarily, in some ways it could be even better that he didn't take Kelvin's offer.

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                              Kotenmaru Premium Member
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                              Wow, they actually used normal animation for the Heroes fight and it looks so much cleaner than the cgi they used for the Gerard and Viktor fights.

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                                mortcs Premium Member @Kotenmaru
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                                @Kotenmaru This episode was also pretty faithful to the LN. They did drop some of black winds shenanigans during the fight scene tho.

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                                  Thinking back, the only thing the first King of Toraj failed to do, was introduce a Japanese Tea Ceremony. Watching/reading about Efil doing that for Kelvin would have been fun.

                                  Looking to the next few years of Ascendance of a Bookworm.

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                                    mortcs Premium Member
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                                    The hero apparently does not have his lucky lecher skill in the anime... That running gag will be missed.

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                                      endoftheline @mortcs
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                                      @mortcs It would be at best an informed attribute in the anime. Since it's only been demonstrated against Colette and his three party members in the novel. Mostly thanks to Kelvin's efforts to keep his grubby mitts off Efil and Sera.

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                                        Kotenmaru Premium Member @mortcs
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                                        @mortcs As @endoftheline said, we never see Touya's "Lucky Lecher" powers in person, only through side stories in someone else's PoV, so it's nothing out of the ordinary for it not to be here. I always attributed it to Sera's luck, which is border-line reality bending in the LN, countering it since she wouldn't want that to happen.

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                                          endoftheline @Kotenmaru
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                                          @Kotenmaru Oh right, I remember Sera's luck getting mentioned in context of the Lucky Lecher skill not going off, I think it was only mentioned once when they met in Toraj. Mostly I just recall how Kelvin exhausts himself watching out for that skill whenever the parties meet.

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                                          • saskirS
                                            saskir Premium Member
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                                            And.... here happened what I talked about before.

                                            How do anime only figure out who Kelvin means when he says that Rio's name remind him of someone unpleasent and if she could take another name. Sorry for those that argued that Rio will get maybe the name Leo when she reincarnates.

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