[CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!
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Yeah gonna throw my hat into the Light Novel ring. It'll be a bit of a pain doing a second story while maintaining my main releases, but I had an idea so why not...
It's all a bit of fun, right heh
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@hirei, could you give us some idea of how soon we'll get the LN contest submission guidelines in terms of media formats? I know from past experience that it can be a bit of a chore converting between some pairs of formats, especially if you're hundreds of pages in. [Edit] And I know it says no illustrations, but what about maps?
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A bit late to the news, and it have been a while since I’ve been back here, but I’m interested in the light novel contest. At the very least, I’ll used it as a goal to get me motivated to finish one of my stories.
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How is everyone’s stuff going? I am hoping to stop by here from time-to-time to commiserate with folks trying to get something done in time for the contest. I am also happy to hear from folks who aren’t participating—who are just curious, or want to offer support (or who want offer a good-natured laugh at our expense)—it’s all good. I mostly subscribe to J-Novel for the forums—so it’s really nice to hear from folks!
As for me, I don’t know if I will get done in time, but at least I have found few characters that i find kind of fun—so that’s a win!
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@jazzyjeoff still finishing up my outline, I'm having trouble figuring out what I should do in the last 2 chapters. But I've written up a character sheets for my main cast and have some good sense of where I'm going. Now I just have to write the damn thing 😅
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@jazzyjeoff My goal with this contest is to just "finish a novel" because while I had many great ideas in the past I never actually wrote anything past a chapter 1 before. Now I'm sitting at 10k+ words, I'm not very hopeful the end result will be anything substantial but just getting to this point has been a big achievement for me.
I'm also very excited to see everyone else's stories.
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@Anti-i25 said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:
Also maybe we could get a thread going for the contest for everyone to discuss their own progress and whatnot.
I did consider starting one myself, but it would have to be strictly on the basis that nobody shared anything more than the barest plot/character details because it's only too easy to copy something else subconsciously plus I was wondering if there might be an official one started anyway once submissions were open.
As for my effort, I have around 13k words so far but I'm waiting now until I see the detailed rules before I go any further, I don't want to get caught out by unforeseen restrictions like it having to be submitted on maximal-quality feypaper (apologies to those poor souls not following Bookworm).
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@Anti-i25 yeah, I might be at 10K, too. But my setting is pretty non-descript and the tone is sort of uneven. That’s the thing about only having messed around with fan-fiction—those things are already done for you. Now I have to think about world-building and describing scenery and whatnot. Even putting together something that is original but tropey is a lot more work.
@Lily-Garden Character sheets? —yikes—sounds so organized! ;)
I think Mike Tyson said, “everyone has a plan—until they get hit.” That’s pretty much the way my plots and characters work—I start with a plot and some characters—and then the characters pretty much ignore everything I have planned out for them (and somehow I end up being the one getting beat up!)Anyway —it’s so nice to hear from folks—have fun and good luck!
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@jazzyjeoff said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:
...original but tropey...
You know, that's it. That's the problem I'm running into in a nutshell. How many tropes does a LN need to qualify as a LN? Worried that I didn't have enough, I added a brocon imouto just in case 😄
After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
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@Angelus said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:
@jazzyjeoff said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:
...original but tropey...
You know, that's it. That's the problem I'm running into in a nutshell. How many tropes does a LN need to qualify as a LN? Worried that I didn't have enough, I added a brocon imouto just in case 😄
Just put “Villainess” somewhere in the title and I think you’ll be safe —yes, even if it’s BL (wait, that sounds more interesting than the thing I am working on —Arrg!)
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I'm plotted and happy with it. Going to start doing 5-10k a week soon to.fit around my other project
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@jazzyjeoff I've never written anything fiction wise longer than say 2 pages so I figured that if I'm going to try to write a whole 35000 or more words then I'm going to need to have a bit of organization to make sure that I have some things like you know character consistency and whatnot
I don't trust my brain to remember all the things so I decided to be best to put it down on paper
“There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky
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@Angelus for me I didn't worry about any of the tropes, I don't think I'm a great enough writer to try to control how tropey my writing is. I just tried to think of something I would like to read on J-novel Club that there isn't a bunch of and that I think I could actually you know write.
Imagining my story as if it is its anime adaptation has been helpful though
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@Lily-Garden said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:
@jazzyjeoff I've never written anything fiction wise longer than say 2 pages so I figured that if I'm going to try to write a whole 35000 or more words then I'm going to need to have a bit of organization to make sure that I have some things like you know character consistency and whatnot
I don't trust my brain to remember all the things so I decided to be best to put it down on paper
Oh, I would love to be more organized. And this is pretty much a first for me, too. And since there is a pretty good chance that I won’t finish in time, I am going to at least enjoy the process and maybe enjoy a little bit of camaraderie with folks doing the same. So, please take anything I say in that spirit!
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Well, i'm probably not the right person to give advice on quantity, as my main webnovel is up to 1.7 million words lol, but...
Generally, once you start getting the words down, it becomes easier..first 1000 words.is the hardest. At 10,000 you're commited and habits have formed so the next 10k are easier as you've got the flow and the reward of seeing your words on page...
So, yeah, I think it gets easier. The first steps are always the hardest lol
In terms of writing, might not work for anyone else, but for me, I imagine I am the characters I'm.writing, and I find words flow from there
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At around 30K words at this point. Aiming for 60K for the narrative arc that I'd submit, for this story at least. There's another story that I think might be even more enjoyable due to the character dynamics I've envisioned, but it would be much more complicated to write. That second story might warrant actual planning and a bit of background research so I'm not doing "forging of swords using molds."
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@jazzyjeoff said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:
@Lily-Garden said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:
@jazzyjeoff I've never written anything fiction wise longer than say 2 pages so I figured that if I'm going to try to write a whole 35000 or more words then I'm going to need to have a bit of organization to make sure that I have some things like you know character consistency and whatnot
I don't trust my brain to remember all the things so I decided to be best to put it down on paper
Oh, I would love to be more organized. And this is pretty much a first for me, too. And since there is a pretty good chance that I won’t finish in time, I am going to at least enjoy the process and maybe enjoy a little bit of camaraderie with folks doing the same. So, please take anything I say in that spirit!
Will do comrade 🫡 😉
I’m normally not an organized person myself but if I’m going to have any chance of completing such a big project then I know I will need to be
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So it's probably not the best idea for anyone to be sharing detailed plot ideas and the like, but it might still be interesting to share titles we've come up with. It'd be a fun peek into the ideas each of us are coming up with without running too much risk of leaking whatever special sauce we're putting into our works. Thus far I've sketched out two narratives, with the following titles.
Bounded Fates - By Duty Bound
But For Me It Was Wednesday - Motive & MeansAs an aside, Microsoft Word apparently did not like my usage of & in a document title and encoded it as ^0.
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@zwabbit said in [CONVENTION APPEARANCE] Anime Expo 2023 with J-Novel Club!:
So it's probably not the best idea for anyone to be sharing detailed plot ideas and the like, but it might still be interesting to share titles we've come up with. It'd be a fun peek into the ideas each of us are coming up with without running too much risk of leaking whatever special sauce we're putting into our works. Thus far I've sketched out two narratives, with the following titles.
Bounded Fates - By Duty Bound
Motive & MeansAs an aside, Microsoft Word apparently did not like my usage of & in a document title and encoded it as ^0.
Ugh, i'm struggling so much with the title, it's so much harder that coming up with the plot itself... When I crack it I don't mind sharing though...
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@ShipTeaser what I do is come up with a placeholder title so I can focus more on the details of the story
It’s tricky coming up with the right title so I gonna put it off till the end
