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    [CONTEST OVER] JNC Original Light Novel Contest

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    • jazzyjeoffJ
      jazzyjeoff @Lily Garden
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      @Lily-Garden I think a positive for working on several parts at once is that (when it works for me) it can make the story feel more cohesive—things like foreshadowing and jokes that reference other parts of the story can feel more natural because they are written while in the same state of mind. Of course there is no right way—but, as you mentioned, the problem is when you “can’t get there from here” without things feeling forced—I have multiple digital trash bins of stuff I liked but stopped fitting the story.

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      • ShinyS
        Shiny Premium Member @admin
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        I'm not sure if I'll actually get to a finished product to submit but I'm having fun working on a premise for the sort of light novel that I'd like to read.

        I've got my initial set-up and am happy with it but have yet to come up with a satisfying conclusion. If I have enough time I'll write out of what I've outlined so far to see if that helps to inspire the rest and otherwise I'll keep working on it in bullet point form.

        Good luck to everyone who is participating. I look forward to seeing your entries in due course!

        Stay shiny, y'all.

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          zwabbit Premium Member
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          I've functionally broken up my narrative for Bounded Fate into about four parts and only intend to submit the first part so that I don't end up overrunning the word count limit. That's looking to be around 40K words, which will be enough to set the tone, do a bit of world building, and introduce the audience to the main characters. The supporting characters are going to get somewhat shafted, at least in the current draft, and even one of the main characters is going to be a bit thin in this first part, but my priority is to get this thing done.

          The main thing that this draft has to achieve is to make JNC interested enough in it to want to publish, after which there'll presumably be at least some time to incorporate feedback and make additional revisions to smooth out any major rough edges. Optimistically speaking, the premise and narrative in the current state should be interesting enough to at least get past one or two of the rounds. With more polish it might even be able to reach the grand prize, but the issue is again time. The current draft is almost done, I'd expect by this weekend to be wrapping it up and submitting it. After which I can move onto Motive & Means, which I think tonally might elicit a more dynamic response if I can nail the intended character presentation. If I can get those two submissions in before the deadline, I'll be satisfied.

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            ShipTeaser Premium Member
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            For me, I've done most of the first 4 chapters (character/setup), (exposition), (ability/world), (action and dilemma) need to finish them over the next week or so...

            I always find the start the hardest, so when they are some and polished I can write the rest in a couple of weekends most likely

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              • Lily GardenL
                Lily Garden Member
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                I woke up this morning with the first fully formed half of a story that's completely different than the one I was originally writing for the contest in my mind.

                Has this ever happened to any of you guys, you start writing one thing and then your brain starts spitting out something that's completely totally dissimilar?

                Well I guess I'm going to be trying to write two stories before the contest ends now....

                “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                • AngelusA
                  Angelus Member @Lily Garden
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                  @Lily-Garden, I've never had that happen to me, but I did wake up one morning a few weeks before the JNC competition was announced knowing the basic outline of the story that I'm writing now right down to the title. It seems strange enough to me though that the brain can do this at all, let alone that it should do it whilst someone is already writing a different story.

                  If I have the time, which I very much doubt, I'd like to get two stories in as well because I have the first few thousand words of a sci-fi story that's set so far in the future it might as well be fantasy and I realised that it might make a good sort of isekai too if I can bring someone from the present day into it.

                  After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
                  —Tearmoon Empire

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                  • Lily GardenL
                    Lily Garden Member @Angelus
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                    @Angelus well, to be fair to my brain, the idea for this second story had been percolating in the back of my mind for a while; but it all came into focus with detail this morning

                    “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                      zwabbit Premium Member @Lily Garden
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                      @Lily-Garden You see that Mumblemumble post above? That was me scrapping about 50K words of text to redo (twice!) the entire story of Bounded Fate at that point. And that's ignoring the fact that I have another entirely different narrative in Motive & Means that I've yet to start on.

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                      • Lily GardenL
                        Lily Garden Member @zwabbit
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                        @zwabbit personally I'm just impressed you had written 50k

                        I might be lucky if either story makes to the word count requirement by the deadline at the rate I'm currently going...

                        “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                          BakedWordSalad @Lily Garden
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                          @Lily-Garden said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

                          Has this ever happened to any of you guys, you start writing one thing and then your brain starts spitting out something that's completely totally dissimilar?

                          I've had that happen to me three times since the beginning of the contest, two were ideas I've been stewing on for a while but a completely original idea struck me out of the blue. I actually wrote like 3k words on it before I realized it's not even a novel.

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                          • jazzyjeoffJ
                            jazzyjeoff @Lily Garden
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                            @Lily-Garden Just have fun!—and for what it’s worth—when I say to you to “just have fun”—I am probably mostly trying to convince myself to do that. I can't help but get caught up in delusions of grandeur with this —but realistically the most I will probably get out of this is a so-so story that I might finish some day and the chance to talk about that attempt here. I know I need to be okay with that—but honestly the delusions are kind of fun, too!

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                            • jazzyjeoffJ
                              jazzyjeoff
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                              The only person that I really have to bounce my story ideas off of really trashed the ending I have been working on. I guess I probably shouldn't keep it—I sort of enjoyed working on it—but now I am a little down—and I really don't know how this is going to end. (and, I have a lot more to write outside of the ending).

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                              • Lily GardenL
                                Lily Garden Member @jazzyjeoff
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                                @jazzyjeoff as a relative stranger from forum-land, I just want to say "keep at it!" and encourage you just like you have been encouraging me

                                And in my completely totally & utterly uninformed opinion I think you wrote a decent ending (or at least I imagine it to be 😉)

                                “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                                  zwabbit Premium Member
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                                  Whenever someone criticizes a work of mine, there is a sort of checklist I apply to determine whether the criticism is warranted or applicable.

                                  1. Are there any actionable improvements within the criticism?
                                  2. Is the criticism raised consistent or coherent within the context of the narrative itself, or is something being asked of that's impossible to begin with?
                                  3. Does the criticism align with the actual story that I am personally interested in writing?

                                  By and large if someone outright "trashes" something, it indicates a mismatch in personal taste between what is being written and what the reader wants to read. While there can certainly be legitimate criticism of a work that centers around technical inaccuracies (coughCheat Blacksmithcough), if a reader's feedback is centered around how the story is not of the type or content that they themselves are interested in, there's nothing really that can be done to improve the work by trying to take into account such feedback. At the end of the day, you are writing a story that you yourself are interested in. If the end that results in is not what some prospective reader wants, there's no point in forcing either to try to reconcile with each other.

                                  In other words, write what you want, be it ending or other parts. At the end of the day, unless you're personally happy with what you have, you won't be able to do the most important bit of all this, which is to actually write something out.

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                                  • AngelusA
                                    Angelus Member
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                                    Endings? Because I usually write from the outside in, the ending gets written fairly early on. Which can be a problem in itself because I then have to make everything in middle result in that ending. And right now, I'm having second thoughts because there are certain events I need to happen in order to make my ending a reality (including one scene already written that I really don't want to ditch) that will inevitably damage the MC's personal integrity in the eyes of some readers. I guess he's just a Flawed Hero®, though, which in the best case might make him seem more human. [Edit] Although sometimes I feel it's verging on "no real person would behave like that". Oh well.

                                    As for letting someone else read it before I submit it, that will happen but that person is into "real" novels and has never read a light novel before so if I get a negative review I can put it down to that. Maybe.

                                    Anyway, 25k words done (plus a further 5k of "fanbook" background stuff), another 25k to go although I think I might need to increase my target length if things start to seem rushed in the midsection. [Edit] And lengthening the midsection might actually make the MC seem like less of a heartless bastard. Hmm, need to sleep on that.

                                    After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
                                    —Tearmoon Empire

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                                    • custodesC
                                      custodes Premium Member
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                                      It is a shame that this did not come a year earlier. I had just got my first novel published and starting to write the second of the series.
                                      Japanese light novels were the inspiration for me to start writing.

                                      Author of Praetor's Blood.
                                      Find out more at www.jmacnovels.com

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                                      • TheGrimLichT
                                        TheGrimLich Member @custodes
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                                        @custodes Congrats on getting published!

                                        My grasp on sanity remains absolute.

                                        Oh, right, the poison, the poison for Kuzco, the poison chosen especially to kill Kuzco, Kuzco's poison. ...That poison?

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                                        • cathfachC
                                          cathfach Premium Member
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                                          Submitted my entry. :)

                                          Glad I spotted this when I did. In a spot of lucky timing, I had one I was about to self-publish, so all it needed was a bit of editing to get the word count down to competition limits. Ended up on 99967. (So long as contractions are counted as one word, anyway. If not, I'm screwed...)

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                                            admin Staff @cathfach
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                                            @cathfach We're not going to police things to the individual word... Thanks for your entry!

                                            Even at this early juncture, not even 1 month since we opened submissions, we already have 30 or so entries. I'm sure that will accelerate considerably the closer we get to the deadline in January! I'm starting to get worried that 2 months isn't going to be enough time to judge all the entries to see who gets past the first round...

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