Release schedule unreliability :( Smartphone.
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Things would be better if we just got rid of the harem genre permanently desuu nee? :3
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@imilyaz I think there should be a harem protagonist where all the girls in his harem also have their own personal reverse harems...and all those reverse harms guys were isekaied to this world to fight the demon lord or somthing somthing cliche.
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@rahul-balaggan omg I'd love that
Somehow, reverse harem doesn't annoy me as much. But that's probably just because of my personal issues.
Like, how can multiple girls just throw themselves(not literally, they're not boomerangs lmao. Im sure you got it but i just feel so talkative today) over a guy like that, like like like where is your self respect!? And then and then the Mc most of the time doesn't pick a girl but they keep following him even though. And what happened to their own goals and passions? Why do they always need to be saved? Why do they fall in love with him because he showed them just a little bit kindness?
Those thoughts later end up as "i treat both girls and boys with respect, i know how to spin a pen and then catch it. Im also an introverted MC. Im also dense. So so so where is my harem???"
TL;DR
I dislike harem because I'm jealous of the harem MC. (I-I'm just j-joking o-okay?)"I drowned a fish, killed a dead tree and made medicine sick"
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So much I want to comment on in this...
Steiner has done a great job on the series's translation. There's been a few slips in the weekly releases, but he was sick and needed a bit of time. I'm more than happy to wait a little longer for his work.
I don't mind harem stories, but I find most stories have a hard time actually incorporating the girls into the story and actually developing the relationships. There's a lot of good, interesting conflict that come out after the relationships have started than being perpetually stuck before it.
With Bluesteel Blasphemer I felt like the harem was counter productive to the plot. The protagonist's motivation was protecting his one remaining family member in that new world. Everything else was secondary to that and trying to have other girls cozy up to him was clumsy and distracting. I'm not convinced he'll bite (have yet to read volume 4), and I haven't been since volume 2. The harem element felt tacked onto an otherwise interesting premise for the sake of sales by having a cast of cute girls.
With Realist Hero, I can't say too much. I only read volume 1, because it's the only series on here that broke my suspension of disbelief. There's no way an 18 to 20 year old knows as much as he does and is that capable of an administrator. Also, hero or not, politics doesn't work that way. It wouldn't matter how spectacular he is, there are people who aren't going to appreciate you coming in and changing their system no matter how much better it is, because it's theirs. They will drag their heels, sabotage, and interfere with you every step of the way.
However, I don't think all harems are bad. Some of the better eroge do good jobs with them. On this site, Invaders of the Rokujoma is probably the best harem. The girls are well incorporated into the story and while the relationships develop slowly, they do develop.
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@eins said in Release schedule unreliability :( Smartphone.:
So much I want to comment on in this...
With Realist Hero, I can't say too much. I only read volume 1, because it's the only series on here that broke my suspension of disbelief. There's no way an 18 to 20 year old knows as much as he does and is that capable of an administrator. Also, hero or not, politics doesn't work that way. It wouldn't matter how spectacular he is, there are people who aren't going to appreciate you coming in and changing their system no matter how much better it is, because it's theirs. They will drag their heels, sabotage, and interfere with you every step of the way.
You should try the next few volumes. This is a major factor in the story, it's not ignored.
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@imilyaz I agree with you on everything but I don’t think it’s so much that the MC shows a little bit of kindness it’s that he shows the right kind of kindness.
Realist Hero:
Liscia falls in Love cause of how hard He works to save a country that pretty much screwed him by summing him hereJuna falls in love because of the way he governs, use everyone’s talents and thei land will prosper, he showed that it don’tatter man, women, Demi, etc if you are useful he will use you(and abuse you)
Roroa falls in love cause she just cant keep up with him, she is a very smart intellectual girl, but when she saw the things he did she was swept off her feet.
Aisha...honestly I just think he won her over with her stomach...
Same things can apply for novels and manga alike
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@rahul-balaggan Aisha is the cutest full stop lmao
(Taking down notes from harem MC even though LN=/ real life)
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@rahul-balaggan Aisha... OMG! Dying...
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Just my opinion, but I think that the is a difference between an actual harem story, and what I call a "harem-like" story. The distinguishing factor is how the MC responds to his "admirers". In a real harem story, he (for simplicity) returns, or is at least conflicted over returning, their affections. In a harem-like story, he doesn't return the affection, or may actually reject it from no more than one of the girls.
My classifications:
Smartphone - harem
Diamaou - harem-like
Rokujouma - harem
Mixed Bathing - leaning towards harem
Neechuu - harem-like
Outlook Company - potential harem
Watafuta - possible reverse harem
Bluesteel Blasphemer - harem-like
Realist - harem
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@terrence Agreed Soma has me directing all my eye rolls firmly at him. Don't talk to the audience about "blue b***s" if your going to ignore EVERY single advance after.
Like the birth mortality hook. I would have been good with that, but the writer abandoned it almost as soon as he broached it.
Plus!! I have a mad scientist and a real doctor and contraception never comes up? At least mention it being hard to perfect or something to address it.
Idle harems are suppose to be funny, like smartphone, if your not being funny then do something like Mushoku and hook up.
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@hyferzftw Not sure when it was inferred for someone not to use their own discretion. Its a FORUM.
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@d-l You're kidding, right? No? Moron meter is pegged.
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@d-l But contraception does come up. Souma mentions that Marx wouldn't allow him to use it until there is a heir.
And after child mortality was solved, Souma explicitly states that he's not ready to be a farther yet.
But I'd expect some progress as soon as Liscia formally makes him.
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@jaquobus said in Release schedule unreliability :( Smartphone.:
But I'd expect some progress as soon as Liscia formally makes him.
Makes him what? King? Her husband? To be ready?
Frankly, I was a bit disappointed that everyone sort of fell asleep in volume 3, even though (slightly adult comment)
Disappointed, but hardly surprised. Most harem are more chaste than an average romance novel.
Frankly, I'd be willing to bet that Aisha gets pregnant before Liscia.
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@paul-nebeling Frigging autocorrupt. I meant to write marry, but make. Because considering how medieval European the society is, you'd expect the deed to be done in the wedding night.
As for the charity of harems: that really depends. R18 titles like Sister New Devil feature their fate share of more steamy content, titles like Mixed Bathing keep it to a more wholesome level and thing like Infinite Stratos and Little Apocalypse purposefully have neutron star density protagonist.
And then you have No Game No Life, lambshading its censored ecchi.
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@jaquobus In the discussion of the anime for Arifureta, I thought I saw that "things" happen there. I'm not looking for anything explicit, but sometimes I feel like I'm watching a 50's TV show where married couples sleep in separate twin beds.
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@shiroi-hane As I know the origin of lampshading, it cannot be an eggcorn. So either a typo or a Freudian slip, considering that a nookie is Schäferstündchen in German (literally, roughly: shepherd's hour).
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@paul-nebeling If you don’t mind me spoiling the end of the first volume of Arifureta...
I’m really curious to see as to how White Fox is going to adapt this.Edit: Also, what the heck has this thread evolved into haha. OP talked about the inconsistency of Smartphone releases, now we’re talking about the chastity of harem protagonists? Lol not that I’m complaining.
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@legitpancake Well, Smartphone is a harem, and Touya is a bit unreliable where the girls are concerned, so... (snicker)
For dealing with "that", I'm expecting something along the lines of how SAO dealt with it. Although it wasn't that much more detailed in the LN. A bit does get said between that first punch being thrown and the scene on the bedroom.
I'm sure that Sam will have a catch-up on Arifureta sooner or later.
