Sol Press Discussion Thread
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@harmlessdave said in Sol Press Discussion Thread:
80,000 Gold will hopefully be rescued since it's FUNA and (in my opinion) better than the last 2-3 volumes of Potion Loli. So people should skip the Sol version.
Book 1 is sold out on Amazon and book 2 doesn’t have a paperback according to Amazon. I checked.
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So Sol press had to have gone out of business. I honestly can't think of anything else to explain everything just going dark for several months.
Still, I'm a little surprised. Most companies that actually have customers will atleast tell you they are going out of business. Maybe they ran into legal trouble?
Either way... Fingers crossed JNovel can save 80,000 Gold.
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Actually, on their discord they have been very consistent in stating that they are not going bankrupt, have zero legal or money issues, and that they can't tell us a single thing due to nondescript NDAs other than all will be well at some point that they're still working on things for the future.
It's all incredibly frustrating and I have no idea what their management is thinking or how they expect anyone to be willing to do business with them in the future even if they do poof back into how they were before the website disappeared (which itself would hardly be something to celebrate as they have been incredibly slow and opaque over the past year or so). I feel really bad for both their employees who have to parrot this stuff and deal with us, and their really good IPs like Chivalry that feel basically abandoned at this point.
If J-Novel got the Chivalry license from them I'd lock myself into Membership here for at least a full year.
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Yeah. Not sure what world they are in where an NDA prevents them from having their website etc. And not being able to say why it's all gone...
Clearly a bull party line they are being forced to spout...
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@shipteaser said in Sol Press Discussion Thread:
Yeah. Not sure what world they are in where an NDA prevents them from having their website etc. And not being able to say why it's all gone...
Clearly a bull party line they are being forced to spout...
Maybe they're being bought out by another company? Acquisitions can have a total gag order and it would potentially explain why they don't seem to be spending any money getting their web site back online. Otherwise yeah, it sounds like bull since no way a standard employment NDA would prohibit people from saying why they can't seem to get what should be standard IT operations in order.
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@jpwong said in Sol Press Discussion Thread:
Maybe they're being bought out by another company? Acquisitions can have a total gag order and it would potentially explain why they don't seem to be spending any money getting their web site back online.
This might be an out there of a guess, but, what if it's in the process of folding into Kadokawa?
Sol Press has had a partnership with Kadokawa Dwango since 2019, and with Kadokawa's recent foray into English light novel publishing it might entice them to incorporate Sol's catalogue of established titles to their own, never mind how malhandled and miniscule that catalogue may be...
That would be the best case scenario. No matter what I may think of BW's drm, the titles at least would be guaranteed into the future. -
@jpwong said in Sol Press Discussion Thread:
@shipteaser said in Sol Press Discussion Thread:
Yeah. Not sure what world they are in where an NDA prevents them from having their website etc. And not being able to say why it's all gone...
Clearly a bull party line they are being forced to spout...
Maybe they're being bought out by another company? Acquisitions can have a total gag order and it would potentially explain why they don't seem to be spending any money getting their web site back online. Otherwise yeah, it sounds like bull since no way a standard employment NDA would prohibit people from saying why they can't seem to get what should be standard IT operations in order.
if that is the case (that they are being bought out) that is potentially good news. My frustration with the zero info and progress on production has led me to write them off. If another corp buys them out - things might actually make it to publication (presumably a buyout would be just to get the IP rights - what other assets do they have? I mean, if I recall correctly all the talent was contractors, and all the management lacked competence - the only thing that could be sold are the licenses/ revenue streams from already published works)
I won't miss them
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@jpwong said in Sol Press Discussion Thread:
@shipteaser said in Sol Press Discussion Thread:
Yeah. Not sure what world they are in where an NDA prevents them from having their website etc. And not being able to say why it's all gone...
Clearly a bull party line they are being forced to spout...
Maybe they're being bought out by another company? Acquisitions can have a total gag order and it would potentially explain why they don't seem to be spending any money getting their web site back online. Otherwise yeah, it sounds like bull since no way a standard employment NDA would prohibit people from saying why they can't seem to get what should be standard IT operations in order.
If its not Bankruptcy
If its not Legal Issues
If its not Employee's having jumped shipThen really, Aquisition is the only option available left that makes sense. I personally wrote it off because the company is clearly mismanaged and disliked. And the IP that they have isn't all that valuable that any potential buyers absolutely needs the IP immediately versus just waiting for them to fold and get things for bargain prices.
Well, I guess, unless they ran afoul of a contract on their licences and had a poison pill whereby they have to sell the company to apease private investors/licensors. But even thats a bit out there to consider. I also guess the Site issues could just be that their only Web Developer jumped ship and they can't afford to hire another one, and its not like their website really brings them money. But still a company would want to atleast broadcast that decision out instead of just letting things die with zero communications.
But still. Even though aquiring companies tend to put a Gag order on Aquisition related information. I've never heard of one being so broad as to demand they stop all public facing activity and not pretend as its business as usual... because, the aquiring company tends to not want to aquire something that implodes months before the deal settles at a locked in higher rate.
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Let's not have this thread devolve into a "Let's guess what actually has happened to Sol Press" discussion.
Reasoned speculation has kind of reached its end here, without any new information there is nothing more that could be said.
Please try and keep it to discussing new information/statements, or about how their stopping affects the works involved that they publish.
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@admin honestly i think the compony is done normally by now we would be expecting to here news of the December release's by now as they tend to release a fair few light novel volume then i think 4-5 last years
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Them being silent for this long, If the company actually shuts down, is there any chance at getting the titles re-licensed again? After DMG shutdown, there was no Aria licensing again.
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@amit34521 Licenses have been rescued from other failed publishers in the past, so if they are indeed gone it's possible. But they're very infrequent, often not hugely popular (aka they don't make a lot of money, and translation is unfortunately a business with limited resources) so it's improbable. Especially not anytime soon, since the other rescues I'm aware of all game after extended breaks in publishing.
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Hello,
We seem to be going further down the same rabbit hole.
There really is nothing that can be said until a new statement comes from the company themselves.
So for now let us wait and see what the future holds for Sol Press.
Thank you
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It seems that Sol Press business status is now "FTB FORFEITED" in the State of California, rather than "ACTIVE", as it was previously. This new status can be verified on https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/ (Search Type: LP/LLC Name, Search Criteria: Sol Press, Search Filter: Keyword).
The definition for "FTB FORFEITED" is on https://www.sos.ca.gov/business-programs/business-entities/cbs-field-status-definitions, which states: "FTB Suspended or FTB Forfeited: The business entity was suspended or forfeited by the Franchise Tax Board for failure to meet tax requirements (e.g., failure to file a return, pay taxes, penalties, interest)."
The definitions site also seems to draw a distinction between "FTB FORFEITED" and "SOS FORFEITED", with the former about taxes, and the latter about the SOI form.
Best I can tell (please correct me if I got this wrong, IANAL), the distinction between "FORFEITED" and "SUSPENDED" is simply whether the business is foreign to California or not. Sol Press is marked Jurisdiction: DELAWARE, Entity Type: FOREIGN.
More information on what it means for a business to have been forfeited: https://www.ftb.ca.gov/help/business/my-business-is-suspended.html
Screenshot (I edited a few together):
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A 'slight' update on Sol
https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/ no longer returns 'ACTIVE' status, instead it gives 'FTB SUSPENDED' for Sol Press.
In business jargon it's described as (from https://www.sos.ca.gov);
Suspended (domestic entities) or Forfeited (foreign entities):
The business entity's powers, rights and privileges, which include the right to use the entity's name in California, were suspended or forfeited in California as described below:FTB Suspended or FTB Forfeited:
The business entity was suspended or forfeited by the Franchise Tax Board for failure to meet tax requirements (e.g., failure to file a return, pay taxes, penalties, interest).So, those in the know, how bad is it?
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@korppi That's the same thing that's in the post right above yours.
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@myskaros Oh, didn't see that. Thanks for heads-up.
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Sol Press just had one of their games removed from the Steam store, and KiriyaAoi on Twitter is claiming Sol hasn't paid a ton of important people they owe money to for the past two years. So... safe to say Sol is dead.
Please rescue their licenses from them J Novel Club! <3
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Yeah, between non-payments of taxes/staff/contractors, the legal status of their business, having lost their domains and items actively being pulled from stores... The situation looks pretty FUBAR.
I've got my fingers crossed that JNC can save some of these titles. Specifically 80,000 gold.
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@killerrin said in Sol Press Discussion Thread:
I've got my fingers crossed that JNC can save some of these titles. Specifically 80,000 gold.
I promise to re-buy volume 1 and 2 as soon as JNC offers them.
(2 sales! Woo! Reason enough to rescue the license :) )
