Nejimaki Seirei Senki – Tenkyou no Alderamin
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In this particular case, I'd wager the best hope is strong sales of Reign of the Seven Spellblades. If that tears up the charts (and it should, it's really fucking good) then maybe Yen Press will look at the author's back catalog.
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@myskaros said in Nejimaki Seirei Senki – Tenkyou no Alderamin:
@Shaddohh said in Nejimaki Seirei Senki – Tenkyou no Alderamin:
An official license would be much appreciated and guaranteed to be popular.
That's an interesting take, given that our sales have not borne that out for all of our other licenses of series with old anime ;)
It depends on the series though. If it's a series that carries its own weight like Alderamin then there's no doubt it will be popular, but if it's a more shallow series then of course it can't do the same with just an old anime adaptation to support it.
There are plenty of novels from JNC with no anime adaptation at all and they're still popular because they carry themselves.
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@Shaddohh My point was "guaranteed to be popular" and what you said just now, "carries itself," neither of those are objective measures of sales-generating numbers. What is objective is "older series that had an old anime which probably will not get more anime." We have plenty of series we already translate that are in that category, and they haven't sold gangbusters, so, objectively, there's little reason to believe Alderamin would be any different. @doceirias provided a much better measure by which to predict sales, though, which is "track the sales of a different series by the same author; if it does well, then it can be worth considering that author's other series."
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@myskaros well if we're playing semantics then there's not really any objective indicators of guaranteed success for entertainment mediums. Of course there's always a chance ANY series will fail, and I wasn't asserting otherwise, but Alderamin is widely acknowledged as having creative depth. That is what I meant when I said it carries itself. I love the series for that, clearly many others do too, and while that's anecdotal and not absolutely guaranteed to translate to direct sales it is still a good indicator of interest in lieu of more concrete information.
TL;DR: I just wanted to add my vote to this series and wasn't making an argument that there's no chance for it to fail in sales, but I still predict that it would perform well.
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@Shaddohh I'm not trying to deny that or say it will definitely not do well, but as a business, the bigger factor we have to consider is that we've tried to license many, many other series that have old anime, and they tend not to perform well. That means that whenever someone suggests that we license yet another older series with an older anime, that's the first thing we think of. "There is little market for stuff with old anime." Many people might like Alderamin, but is it specifically 2000+ people who will 100% buy every English volume that comes out? That's our break-even point, if I remember correctly.
Of course, we also take risks on licenses, but it's usually a risk with a more concrete upside, such as "it's a new series that might become a big hit" or "it might be adapted into an anime for easy cross promotion" or "it's such a well-known classic that we'll get prestige for doing it." Alderamin doesn't fit into any of those holes, so it's hard to justify spending money on it when the only justification is "trust that there are enough fans willing to buy it to make it profitable."
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@myskaros those are fair points. I don't have access to the sales figures so I can't say anything with certainty, but I think you could compare several other popular novels to Alderamin on the points you mentioned. Death March and Classroom of the Elite are the first ones that come to mind. Both have an older anime which ended on a cliffhanger, but both have an official English license and are popular in online communities. I guess my point is, again, that it depends entirely on the series. If it has the ability to gain popularity on its own or enough of a following already from it's older adaptation, then it could easily be worth it. Additionally, it can serve equally as marketing for the publisher to make up for any discrepancy in sales. I'd say that kind of series is especially advantageous for JNC when considering the membership system which can contribute to long-term revenue.
But given that Yen has already started publishing another series from the same author, I guess a different publisher snatching this series isn't as likely or beneficial as it could be otherwise.
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@Shaddohh said in Nejimaki Seirei Senki – Tenkyou no Alderamin:
Death March and Classroom of the Elite are the first ones that come to mind. Both have an older anime which ended on a cliffhanger, but both have an official English license and are popular in online communities.
Those are not in the same situation. Death March Vol. 1 was released in English a full year (January 2017) before the anime aired (January 2018). Classroom of the Elite was licensed (July 2018) a year after the anime finished airing (September 2017), and it was a popular anime that was still in the fanbase's minds as "a recent anime."
Alderamin finished airing in September 2016. If the license were announced like next week, that's nearly 4 years after the anime. No one's talking about it except the superfans. Personally, I really liked the story too and would love to read it. However, objectively, it wasn't a hugely popular anime by any means. Compared to other releases at the same time, it sold really poorly.
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@myskaros that's fair... I just really want it to get licensed lol
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Would love to see this one licensed as well. Anime was quite good as well as the manga.
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I'll add support for a translation too, really liked the anime, didn't like the cliffhanger.
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Another series I would love to see translated now that the Kadokawa door has been opened
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@myskaros Reign of the Seven Spellblades the author's latest series seems to be getting a good reception <please reconsider>
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I love Alderamin, but at the same time I despise it. I've fully read the series already, and yes I'd say the reason I don't like it is because of what happened to Yatori (I will not be expounding on that, there's a spoiler up above).
In any case, that was just my pure subjective opinion. I guess I'm still the one who hasn't gotten over what happened lol. Objectively though, it was good. It was pretty obvious from its themes and the goals of the characters that tragedy is unavoidable.
Bokuto Uno was successful in making a series that I love and hate at the same time.
It seems he really took the reception to Alderamin to heart though (I think I remember seeing Japanese forums in flames due to that event in the story lol), seeing that his latest work, Reign of the Seven Spellblades, is quite the lighthearted one.
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Name this novel:
- the only LN in the top 10 of the 2010 decade in the KonoRano awards of 2019 (placing above Bookworm, Tomozaki and Monogatari) that has not been officially translated and picked up by an English publisher;
- written by the same author who wrote the popular current LN series Spellblades which had an anime announced at the end of 2021;
- has had its own popular anime already;
- has a publisher that is now friendly with JNC?
Yaaas, please licence it.
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If this got license, the top 10 of 2010s are completed. Miracles.
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