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    Kaifuku Jutsushi Yarinaoshi (Redo of Healer) from the Author of Dungeon Builder: The Demon King’s Labyrinth is a Modern City!

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    • smashman42S
      smashman42 Premium Member @DTTA
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      @dtta said in Kaifuku Jutsushi Yarinaoshi (Redo of Healer):

      It's quite a shock. Pretty sure this is the one where he basically rapes and mind screws everyone 'cause 'they hurt him' in a prior life then goes on to raping and mind screwing total innocents and good people.

      Ick

      I think I've found where I'd draw the line.

      Just revenge, I'd probably read it to see how well it is done (like, does it frame the protag as fucked up or as a hero?), but with him going on to innocents... yeah, no thanks.

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      • myskarosM
        myskaros Staff @SoullessMinion
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        @motionless47 said in Kaifuku Jutsushi Yarinaoshi (Redo of Healer):

        as far as i remember at the very least up til mid vol 5ish WN (which is when i kinda dropped it) the only women he'd actually "done" were

        ofc, i dont think any of that was ok but not exactly going around raping completely unrelated women.
        unless you meant when he met

        then thats kinda iffy cause of the aftereffects which

        Pretty sure you're just justifying rape at this point... :/

        Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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        • SoullessMinionS
          SoullessMinion Premium Member @myskaros
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          @myskaros
          oh i didnt say MC didnt rape if thats how it sounded, nor endorsed it in any way/shape or form, i just said i didnt remember him doing so to just anyone and everyone.

          this LN's MC is hard to uh "sympathize" even when a very large amount of the cast is scum and his own backstory is just plain horrible,
          id have dropped the series long before V5 had i not had the annoying habit of being unable to drop series very easily (especially ones that have frequent releases)

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          • myskarosM
            myskaros Staff @SoullessMinion
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            @motionless47 I understand that you were trying to correct someone else's hyperbole, but at the same time... you should realize that what you ended up saying is "oh, he doesn't rape everyone, just people who really deserve it and sometimes it turns out OK!"

            Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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            • SoullessMinionS
              SoullessMinion Premium Member @myskaros
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              @myskaros

              if thats how it read, i do apologize. im kinda stuck as to how to "describe" it without spoiling too much about who/what/motives and such. it is a hard topic to stomach especially since most of the motivation comes from before the re-do.

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              • DTTAD
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                Wasn't really /that/ much hyperbole. I read the WN for a while in spite of the protagonist being pretty vile, and he absolutely does do bad stuff to good guys and the narrative kinda paints him as more or less right. I'd be a lot happier with a villain protagonist like Ainz, honestly. But hey, not trying to say people suck for liking it or anything. I'm just shocked it was so popular to hit #1 on that poll. :)

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                  novurdim
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                  Ainz is one of the lamest protagonists in history, for shame.

                  Sorry, just had to get it off my chest.

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                  • ZingZ
                    Zing
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                    Despite protagonist being consciously evil to the point of sexually abusing and brainwashing his enemies, then justifying every inhuman torture you can think of with "revenge", I kinda grew found of the story.

                    Its a rather fresh take on the whole hero aspect, where normal protagonist would be like "Oh I cant kill people because am a hero, blah blah blah".
                    This MC will be like "Oh this bastard killed the nice elderly dude I met yesterday while I stood and watched from a window? I got a good reason to torture and abuse him/her in the most vile way in order to take revenge".
                    But then again, the main character did get raped, drugged and abused in every imaginable way for nearly 4 years before he got a chance to get back at his captors. I think 4 years of rape would make anyone a little tilted.

                    The only drawback I could see from the web novel is that author is kinda unskilled and whimsical, and tend to write for convenience. Sometimes author would make protagonist a clever, methodical psychopath that outsmarts his enemies and lure them into a trap. While other times main character would walk into an obvious trap or fail to make full use of his abilities.

                    But I would still love to see what light novels hold in store for the characters.

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                      • LegitPancakeL
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                        After trying some of the WN, I wouldn’t touch even an officially translated version of this with a 10 foot pole.

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                            Hyferzftw @LegitPancake
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                            @legitpancake that bad huh. Or was it just ethically wrong.

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                            • LegitPancakeL
                              LegitPancake Premium Member @Hyferzftw
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                              @hyferzftw I mean, just read all the discussion from a month ago of all the rape the MC does. Yea I know about his back story, yea I know it's a revenge LN, but still the MC is really despicable.

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                                Hyferzftw @LegitPancake
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                                @legitpancake I did but figured it wouldn’t be that bad since it wasn’t a fresh read for those comments. But you’re opinion is based on having freshly read it, so that is why I asked. I take it from your reply it is bad.

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                                  • ZingZ
                                    Zing @LegitPancake
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                                    @legitpancake
                                    I think the evil part of main character is his twisted sense of morale. Like he knows that a particular person is evil and will bring harm to people, yet he does nothing based on the idea that "This person might have been evil in the alternative past, but he has not done anything in this present".
                                    He would willingly let that evil person do bad things in order to justify being evil back at him/her. I think this particular trait is what makes redo of healer main character despicable.

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                                        paulnamida @Nol_Mimi_Reyalta
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                                        @sinnoaria I believe you're forgetting

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                                        That's my only gripe with this series. I can dig a scummy MC that's so broken his moral compass is all over the place and acts despicable against other scummy characters, but she was just doing her job. And in the end, that actually end up saving her so it makes me really conflicted on how to feel about it.

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                                          • DTTAD
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                                            "Oh no! Someone attacked me due to my own actions and so it's TOTALLY FINE TO MIND RAPE AND RAPE HER!"

                                            Geez. People.

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