Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion

jcochran

@cibastian Perhaps. One thing that really annoyed me with the anime to date was episode 9 when they really screwed up the timeline. Myne was commissioned to make an hair pin for Frieda's baptism that was coming up in a month. Then the anime does the "one month later" caption for delivery of the hair pin whereas the LN had the construction take less than a week. Totally screwed up the time line there since it left no time at all for all of the events that happen between the delivery and the baptism. So the next episode uses a lot of hand waving and vagueness to deal with those events. Just because some writer doesn't know the difference between a week and a month and make a totally arbitrary and unneeded change.

Quof

@cibastian I did a character count of the LN series a while back. It's a bit out of date since 4 volumes have come out since then, but the character counts were like so:

Part 1 Vol 1: 186,253
Part 1 Vol 2: 207,955
Part 1 Vol 3: 269,769

Part 2 Vol 1: 229,042
Part 2 Vol 2: 239,992
Part 2 Vol 3: 206,595
Part 2 Vol 4: 207,589

Part 3 Vol 1: 221,338
Part 3 Vol 2: 215,595
Part 3 Vol 3: 212,476
Part 3 Vol 4: 218,981
Part 3 Vol 5: 231,006

Part 4 Vol 1: 244,675
Part 4 Vol 2: 231,135
Part 4 Vol 3: 236,234
Part 4 Vol 4: 212,438
Part 4 Vol 5: 219,434

This is character count, so it's a pure expression of length (no variance between how much text is on a page for instance). As you can see, although P1V3 is the longest in the series, the books pretty steadily hover around 220k-240k which is only a bit smaller than P1V3's 270k. Also, P1V3's length might not be reflected at all in the anime, since it's so long due to like 6 short stories being tacked onto the end whereas the anime might potentially not show any of them.

Paul Nebeling

@hiroto I'll give a second sighting to that new Orphen anime. I saw it mentioned in an upcoming Winter 2020 anime list on YouTube. I guess that makes three anime I'll be watching in January.

hiroto

@jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

Just because some writer doesn't know the difference between a week and a month and make a totally arbitrary and unneeded change.

I want to note that Ms Kazuki works pretty closely with all the derivative works of her novel (except translations). She spends lots of time with anime team, sometime even go to their recording sessions. So whatever happening in anime is likely to be sanctioned by the original author.

Anime has tighter constrains than novel does and you cannot put everything in novel into anime, so they need to weave together the essential events to tell the essence of the story, and I guess they felt jumping there one month works to cut out some less important events around that period. I thought it flowed pretty well.

jcochran

@hiroto said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

@jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:
Anime has tighter constrains than novel does and you cannot put everything in novel into anime, so they need to weave together the essential events to tell the essence of the story, and I guess they felt jumping there one month works to cut out some less important events around that period. I thought it flowed pretty well.

It's true that the anime has tighter time constraints. But your argument doesn't work since those events were still put into the anime.
The guildmaster bragging about Frieda's ornaments to rich acquaintances so they in turn pressure Benno for them. The time doesn't exist.
The trombe sprouting and Lutz & Myne getting and processing the bark from it. The time doesn't exist.
Myne adn Lutz making 20 ornaments for Benno. The time doesn't exist.
etc. etc. etc.

All of the above is mentioned/included in the anime in a rather vague and nebulous fashion as regards to time simply because the actual time for those activities doesn't exist because someone decided to allow for a month to pass by instead of a week.

hiroto

@jcochran

Apology that I missed your point. You are completely right about "there is no time". Actually, it is worse than you said. Here is the the time line.

Day 0 - The night Myne returned with the red thread from Freida, with Tuuli and mom's help, and Dad making extra needles, all the red flowers got done.
Day 1 - The day after, Myne purchase white thread, and all the flowers were done that evening, in addition some green leaves.
Day 2 - The next day, it was completed with wood part from Lutz. They took them to Benno to look at it, then to the Guild to deliver it, then guild master took them to Freida to deliver directly.

So, it is actually "two days later", not even "a week", and that will leave them with full month of all those events to occur.

Also, it is definitely not translation error. Japanese voice is clearly saying the same thing.

jcochran

@hiroto said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

Also, it is definitely not translation error. Japanese voice is clearly saying the same thing.

Darn, I was hoping it was a translation error. As for my using a week, I should have said "about a week" or "less than a week". I wasn't making the assumption that Myne and Lutz immediately delivered the ornament as soon as it was finished since the LN was a bit vague on that point, so I allowed for a few days of leeway in the timing.

LurkingMcLurk

http://www.tobooks.jp/booklove_ova/index.html
OVA is announced to be bundled with Part 5 Volume 1 which has a release date of 2020-03-10.
It will have two parts. The first is a side story from Part 3 Volume 2 and the second is a side story from Part 1 Volume 3 (specifically Tuuli — Visiting Corinna)

AlexUsman

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PRAISE BE TO THE GODS

hiroto

@lurkingmclurk said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

http://www.tobooks.jp/booklove_ova/index.html
OVA is announced to be bundled with Part 5 Volume 1 which has a release date of 2020-03-10.
It will have two parts. The first is a side story from Part 3 Volume 2 and the second is a side story from Part 1 Volume 3 (specifically Tuuli — Visiting Corinna)

According to the author's post, this OVA is only sold as bundle and only from TO Books online store and will not be sold separately. I would expect it will be sold separately eventually, but wonder if it will make to crunchyroll someday?

hiroto

Edible Myne and Ferdinand on the celebration cake at the completion party of the 1st season.

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jcochran

@hiroto Oh my. Is that "edible ink jet coloring" used for the majority of the cake? And Myne seems to be missing her trademark hair stick. But still, quite lovely work.

hiroto

@jcochran said in Ascendance of a Bookworm - anime discussion:

And Myne seems to be missing her trademark hair stick.

No she doesn't.

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jcochran

@hiroto Ah, so she does. My X-ray vision seems to be on the fritz.

Paul Nebeling

Speaking of Ferdnand, does the anime's framing "device" actually happen in the LN? (Obviously requires a Spoiler tag to answer.)

jcochran

@paul-nebeling

spoiler

hopebestman

Hi guys , i found this forum now.Before i post anything i want to ask about spoiler tag.If we are talking about LN should we use spoiler tag or can we assume everyone here read the LN in J-Novel?

Rahul Balaggan

@hopebestman well this is a topic for discussing the anime, so if you want to discuss difference between how the Anime adapted the LN no spoiler tag is needed, for the most part the only time you would need a spoiler tag is when you discuss something that has not already been officially translated by J-Novel Club

hiroto

@rahul-balaggan

I'm afraid of this forum becoming 100% spoiler once anime surpasses LN.

Rahul Balaggan

@hiroto You 100% correct, however as long as the talk stays within the anime discussion thread here, then there will be no issue, if users start discussing the anime in the LN topics that would be an issue and I would address it when and if it occurs.

However when the anime overtakes the official LN translation if anyone comes into the anime discussion thread and is upset with spoilers that will be on them