Books/Preorders missing from Amazon
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@jpwong It's implied by virtue of having a KDP account. Just like you aren't checking a box whenever you download a song from iTunes that says "I agree not to rip this song and share it across the Internet," you just agreed to the terms of service in advance.
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@jpwong Re-uploading the same version as before doesn't work, as can be seen with Summon a Demon Lord volumes being banned even after being re-uploaded a month or so ago. This time, J-Novel uploaded the volumes with the "problematic" color illustrations (really just all of them) to the backs of the books, so they don't show up in the previews. We'll have to wait and see how Amazon responds to them. It could be they have a problem with the covers themselves (especially 3, 6, and 10), but without amazon specifying what's wrong it's just a trial-and-error game right now.
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@LegitPancake I was just thinking that amazon might have some sort of elevated review process for accounts where they've just had multiple products removed for what they essentially see as violations of their terms of service, but it sounds like that's not the case.
Like if a retailer was getting garbage from one of their vendors they'd normally either cut them off entirely or say hold on, we need to review what you're sending us here because the products you're trying to have us sell here aren't meeting our quality requirements. -
Amazon needs to knock this crap off. I own a fair number of these books, and most of them don't really have content that would be deemed 'objectionable'. Lazy Dungeon Master volumes 2 & 8 don't have much in the way of ecchi content to them (and while Keima's foot fetish is played up for laughs, that's basically as far as it goes). Mixed Bathing 3, 5, and 6 (just like the rest of the series) basically just has innocent nudity because Touya's party use the Unlimited Bath together. I Shall Survive Using Potions has nothing objectionable at all (literally just one scene in vol 4 where Kaoru and her people go visit a hot spring and deal with peeping toms, a super common anime and manga trope). The only one that kind of makes sense is How NOT to Summon a Demon Lord, since it goes hard on the ecchi and contains a couple lolis, but Amazon still has my ire because they waited to ban the series until after volume 12 came out.
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@Project_Demise said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
Amazon needs to knock this crap off. I own a fair number of these books, and most of them don't really have content that would be deemed 'objectionable'. Lazy Dungeon Master volumes 2 & 8 don't have much in the way of ecchi content to them (and while Keima's foot fetish is played up for laughs, that's basically as far as it goes). Mixed Bathing 3, 5, and 6 (just like the rest of the series) basically just has innocent nudity because Touya's party use the Unlimited Bath together. I Shall Survive Using Potions has nothing objectionable at all (literally just one scene in vol 4 where Kaoru and her people go visit a hot spring and deal with peeping toms, a super common anime and manga trope). The only one that kind of makes sense is How NOT to Summon a Demon Lord, since it goes hard on the ecchi and contains a couple lolis, but Amazon still has my ire because they waited to ban the series until after volume 12 came out.
yea, but your reasoning assumes that those that objected actually read the books. The thing that all of the "banned" books had in common were illustrations, available in previews, that had nudity or implied nudity (steam or something providing the minimum of covering to the 'naughty' bits). I doubt that anyone read for context before complaining.
as notes somewhere upthread, it looks like JNC has "fixed" the problem - by moving the illustrations to the end of the file (vs the front) so they won't show up in previews, and reposting the books. (which resets comments etc.)
just one more reason to buy direct form JNC, have a premium membership, etc.
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@Jon-Mitchell said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
just one more reason to buy direct form JNC, have a premium membership, etc.
Amen, brother.
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So I've occasionally been peaking at the author pages on Kindle for a few of the stories that got removed or restricted, and noticed that for how not to summon a demon lord the region restricted volumes can at least be seen on the author page again even though they still cannot be purchased via the US Amazon page. Has there been any luck on maybe getting the region restrictions removed or it does not seem likely at this point?
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@myskaros said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
Starting in April 2020, Amazon has been removing many JNC e-books without warning, and we've largely been unable to get assistance in figuring out why or how to fix it or prevent it. You can read more details on Twitter:
There was a video on YouTube today I started watching that was referring to various “Karen” organizations trying to get certain manga and light novels banned.
It seemed to have to do with “underaged sex”? That they are trying to blame adults being involved with minors on some of these ‘imported’ works?
Sure, I can see how that applies to some things, and sure Arifureta might apply with its “legal Loli” but then you’d think realist hero would too, with Naden and Roroa... I don’t even want to think about how the other books would be treated.
I have the link somewhere, I’ll try to link it later.
Note: “Karen” seems to be a western term for entitled white women with a racist leaning...?
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Agreed. I’ve been doing that since I think my second amazon/JNC purchase...
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Are there any news about the volumes that were cancelled?.
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Nothing new since the last time, the opening posts will contain any updates when there are any.
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@Darkdroid We have plans to put more volumes up with the color images moved to the back of the book to see if they stay up. We believe one of the issues is that people previewing the book can see those color images, and if any are particularly questionable, that's why they're getting reported.
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Best of luck. I hope that it works. If moving those images solves the problem then that is a small price to pay to get those volumes back up and available. -
@lighthawk96 Another price to pay is that all the reviews built up over the years will be permanently gone, and there's no way to tell amazon to move a new listing to replace the old one in a series. For example, Grimgar v1 is back up on kindle as a new listing, however if you go to the kindle series page it still says that v1 is unavailable since the old listing is still in that place. To make matters worse, volume 1 LN ebook does not even show up in the search results due to amazon automatically placing it as an alternate version for the manga volume 1. I would imagine Arifureta 6 and Lazy Dungeon Master 2/8 will suffer the same fate when they get re-submitted.
The ones where the entire series was banned like Magicmaster and Potions may fare better if they can be grouped together in new series pages (as well as linking to physical pages like with Potions paperbacks), but that's not something JNC has control over.
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Don't also forget that if you bought the old one then you need to buy the new one to get the updated version of the book when corrections or edits are made.
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Looks like Arifureta V3 and V4 have been struck down. They aren't listed on the series page on Amazon anymore.
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Volume 5 is down too, at least the kindle edition.
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Before anyone jumps to conclusions, we received notification that these volumes "provided a misleading customer experience" i.e. some people were trying to find the manga and reported them.
Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.
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@myskaros Is the confusion reported in regards to Arifureta or is it possibly part of why some of the initially removed light novels were taken down? Just curious since I know some of the initial wave had Light Novel listed as part of the title.
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@Darkflame Specifically for the 3 volumes of Arifureta that were removed yesterday.
