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    • SomeOldGuyS
      SomeOldGuy Premium Member @lighthawk96
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      @lighthawk96 What, you mean like having pretty much the same description for Average Abilities manga and novels, so you buy the wrong ones?

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      • myskarosM
        myskaros Staff @saskir
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        @saskir said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:

        And to add to the list in the beginning. The first Volume of LDM is also missing from Amazon.

        I can still see it and buy it fine.

        Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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        • TaedirkT
          Taedirk Premium Member @myskaros
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          @myskaros said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:

          Before anyone jumps to conclusions, we received notification that these volumes "provided a misleading customer experience" i.e. some people were trying to find the manga and reported them.

          That's some big brain logic for every Amazon listing I've come across searching for LNs that's just another manga entry.

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            Village Idiot Premium Member @Crimson Wise
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            @Crimson-Wise moving forward, are color illustrations going to be put in the back of all volumes now, or are they only for the Kindle versions?

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            • pcjP
              pcj Premium Member
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              I've had a few times when I meant to buy the next volume of a light novel and got the manga instead. At least one of those times it was from the "get the next volume" link at the end of a volume because Amazon linked it wrong.

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                endoftheline @SomeOldGuy
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                @SomeOldGuy What's even better is that sometimes when I click a link for a LN in the search results, it takes me to the Kindle page (cuz upsell or whatever); so I click the physical copy button and it takes me to physical copy of the same numbered volume of the manga. Ever since, I've started triple checking that I'm looking at what I'm expecting to look at.

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                  HarmlessDave Premium Member
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                  With Amazon I always have to be careful with a new title they've recommended to see whether it's LN or manga, since the title alone isn't enough. They mix in manga even if I put light novel in my search string.

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                  • lighthawk96L
                    lighthawk96 Premium Member @SomeOldGuy
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                    @SomeOldGuy
                    Nope. I always research the covers to the manga and LNs respectfully in their unedited Japanese format to make sure I'm buying the right one.

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                    • KalessinK
                      Kalessin
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                      For anyone trying to figure out what the light novel and manga volumes look like, Right Stuf makes it quite easy, because you can filter your search there or manga or light novels. So, even if you want to buy on Amazon, it can be a good way to make sure that you're getting the right version - though honestly, I'd just recommend buying from Right Stuf anyway, since their prices are better (at least during their sales), and their packaging is light years better than Amazon's. Of course, they don't work for Kindle books, but if you really want the Kindle version of something, Amazon is obviously your only choice.

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                      • LegitPancakeL
                        LegitPancake Premium Member @Kalessin
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                        @Kalessin Only Kindle versions are being targeted, and many of J-Novel’s titles being hit are ebook only, like Magicmaster, Lazy Dungeon Master, Fake Fake Princess, etc, so Rightstuf won’t help you there (Also RS is only useful in the US since shipping fees are way too high everywhere else). Also kindle allows sending ebooks to their readers as long as the Drm is stripped. Buying JNC premium versions or Kobo (which can be stripped on Calibre) make it easy to convert to Mobi and send to Kindle.

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                        • saskirS
                          saskir Premium Member @myskaros
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                          @myskaros said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:

                          @saskir said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:

                          And to add to the list in the beginning. The first Volume of LDM is also missing from Amazon.

                          I can still see it and buy it fine.

                          Nope not for me. It is missing in the german amazon. I don't find it on the website nor on the kindle webshop itself. Just checked my kindle and 1, 2 and 8 are missing. I only find 9 LDM Volumes including volume 12.

                          US, UK and FR Amazon has the first Volume. But not Germany.

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                          • LegitPancakeL
                            LegitPancake Premium Member @saskir
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                            @saskir German Amazon is known for banning LDM long before the rest of amazon did, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's a regional thing. But as far as we know, KDP has not banned volume 1 yet (which usually results in worldwide removal except for in Japan).

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                            • Crimson WiseC
                              Crimson Wise Premium Member @Village Idiot
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                              @Village-Idiot That is my question. For Magicmaster they are for Premium Ebooks already, I wonder what is the plan there.

                              Quof got a break.
                              WHAT'S THE STORY WITH THAT FREAKING BLACK DRAGON?!

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                              • myskarosM
                                myskaros Staff @Crimson Wise
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                                @Crimson-Wise @Village-Idiot

                                • For books that have been affected by the Amazon situation, we are converting them all to "color images in the back" before reuploading.
                                • For series that are longer than ~6 volumes, we're making a separate "Amazon version" with the color images in the back. Buying it on Kindle will have color images in the back, but premium/other webstores will be in the front.
                                • For all ongoing, unaffected series, color images will remain in the front for the rest of the series.
                                • For new series that haven't had volume 1 release yet and all future new series, color images will now be in the back instead.

                                Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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                                • BartzBBB
                                  BartzBB Premium Member @myskaros
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                                  @myskaros
                                  No offense to JNC but this feels like Amazon came out on top regarding this issue.

                                  I'm not complaining or anything but just sharing what is my reaction to the solution to the current problem.
                                  It feels just like Amazon just created the new standard for an LN E-Book where the color illustrations are now at the back.

                                  • For new series that haven't had volume 1 release yet and all future new series, color images will now be in the back instead.

                                  From my understanding with this statement, this means that all future LN E-Books will now have the color illustration at the back in all platforms and only the series that had already published volume 1 would have an Amazon Version exclusive to Amazon and the other platforms would still use the Original Version.

                                  JNC LN Ranking:
                                  1st - Rokujouma
                                  2nd - Realist Hero
                                  3rd - Bookworm

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                                  • myskarosM
                                    myskaros Staff
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                                    @BartzBB said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:

                                    No offense to JNC but this feels like Amazon came out on top regarding this issue.

                                    I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. We are a business, and Amazon provides a very significant chunk of revenue. We can't afford to fight Amazon and risk being kicked off altogether, all we can do is skirt the issue and try not to keep getting our books removed. If moving images to the back accomplishes that, it's a small price to pay compared to going out of business.

                                    Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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                                    • BartzBBB
                                      BartzBB Premium Member @myskaros
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                                      @myskaros
                                      That's not what I meant.
                                      I was just saying that since the only way for Amazon to accept the volumes again was for the illustration to be placed at the back, now it looks like this new format that Amazon accepts would be the norm for all future e-books, which in my opinion sucks because the original Japanese e-books still has the illustrations at the front in Amazon JP.

                                      PS: This whole issue doesn't really affect me personally since I buy the Premiums and I always reformat the e-books that I buy to my desired format. For those who are curious I read all my LNs via images. This is so I could use the same reader that I use in my PC when reading manga. Although this means that the font style and size can't be changed it's still okay since I set them to my preference before turning them into images.

                                      JNC LN Ranking:
                                      1st - Rokujouma
                                      2nd - Realist Hero
                                      3rd - Bookworm

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                                      • myskarosM
                                        myskaros Staff @BartzBB
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                                        @BartzBB said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:

                                        I was just saying that since the only way for Amazon to accept the volumes again was for the illustration to be placed at the back, now it looks like this new format that Amazon accepts would be the norm for all future e-books, which in my opinion sucks because the original Japanese e-books still has the illustrations at the front in Amazon JP.

                                        You're jumping ahead a bit too much. This is a conclusion JNC reached based on internal discussion, for the reasons stated in my previous post; Amazon did not make any demands regarding what they will/will not accept.

                                        Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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                                        • Jon MitchellJ
                                          Jon Mitchell Premium Member @myskaros
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                                          @myskaros said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:

                                          Amazon did not make any demands regarding what they will/will not accept.

                                          How annoying
                                          In my opinion, considering Amazon is taking 30% commission they should at least share the 'ticket' that lead to the take downs. (even if they feel they need to scrub the tickets to remove identities of who filed the complaints, there should be an indication of what policy/category/error whatever caused the 'infraction')

                                          Amazon created a marketplace, they take a commission and regulate their marketplace. And those being penalized deserve to at least to know why

                                          I read banned books

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                                          • myskarosM
                                            myskaros Staff @Jon Mitchell
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                                            @Jon-Mitchell said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:

                                            Amazon created a marketplace, they take a commission and regulate their marketplace. And those being penalized deserve to at least to know why

                                            This is why monopolies are bad, mmk.

                                            Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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