Books/Preorders missing from Amazon
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@Kalessin I actually decided to steer clear of kobo because its based in canada(contrary to its mother company being based in japan), which by the way has censorship laws albeit probably not as bad as Australia. The only big online shop that is "probably" safe I found so far is google play. Its a shame honestly because at this point its basically just google and bookwalker, and Ive heard terrible thing about bookwalkers reader app in general with how it lists titles in shop and other clunky features. I gave it a short go and can confirm they'd need to gut and rebuild half the app to be on par with its competitors
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@jcochran Partly I have something similar. I have my Manga collection in a closet where I can pull out the shelves. Still from my grandfather and was thought for shirts etc but works like a charm. With a small spring at the side that the books can not open themselves and everything is tidy. I can store 45 volumes of a normal sized Manga per shelf (3 rows and 15 per row). This 6 times per side for a total of 3 makes around 800 volumes I can store (granted my old Manga were slightly larger so this is not exact). And dam I get again sidetracked in this thread.
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I can't say I really see Google as being that much safer than Amazon unless we get some clearer idea about why they're taking down LNs in the first place. Almost any reason they would have been removed on Amazon could be applied to Google as well. Digital content from any platform is fairly risque in the first place because most storefronts consider a digital purchase a license which they can revoke for almost any reason at any time.
Every country out there has censorship laws too, it really comes down to how far will the courts enforce them and how easily groups can submit content they contend is obscene, immoral or strait up illegal and how they'll rule, especially in regards to content where the characters are generally speaking minors.
In any case, since I had asked about it earlier, the only real difference between Google and Kobo is image quality apparently, so if you're limiting purchases to LNs and image quality isn't one of your priorities, Google should be just as good as Kobo.
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@jpwong The Google Book app is archaic. You can't even make folders for series so everything shows up on one long vertical list by individual books. You have to hope and pray that the publisher enters the metadata right so the series goes into the correct sub-folder and in the right order.
Yen Press is infamous for not entering the metadata right because apparently it's really hard to just copy the metadata from the previous volume(s).
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@Village-Idiot said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
The Google Book app is archaic. You can't even make folders for series so everything shows up on one long vertical list by individual books.
There are 2 tabs in the app, Your Books and Series.
The Google Book App automatically creates folders for series under the Series tab and adds all purchased books from the series in its folder.
The folder will also include links to purchase the rest of the books in the series. -
@sniper_samurai The issue, like I said, Yen Press tends to have issues entering the correct metadata for their series.
For example, apparently Sword Art Online consists of volumes 2, 3, 4, and 15.
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@Village-Idiot App is bad, but if you do it through the web site you can shelve you books however you want including the epubs you upload to the site yourself (doesn't translate into anything in the app unfortunately though).
But purely from the standpoint of buying and downloading the epubs, I asked a few pages back and someone mentioned the only difference between what the play store will sell you and what you buy through Kobo is that the images are lower quality on play store.
That means if you're coming at this from the perspective of how at risk is the digital storefront of your choice potentially going to get hit with government censorship like in Australia, Play Books is a reasonable alternative to Kobo if you have no real preference on the image quality. -
@jpwong your book purchases from Google Books will auto update, which is a definite plus.
I've seen them update series multiple times. For example, all their titles used to be just the name of the book.
Ie: Sword Art Online
For every single volume, so the app sorts it in last read order and is a complete mess.
Note at least they're named correctly by volume number, but they still messed up some titles where the names of the individual volumes are slightly different than the others.
I don't know how this is so hard.
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@jpwong said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
App is bad, but if you do it through the web site you can shelve you books however you want including the epubs you upload to the site yourself (doesn't translate into anything in the app unfortunately though).
The shelves are accessible in the tablet versions of the app, but as you said they aren't implemented into the mobile versions.
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With all the negativ reports something a little fun (atleast in my eyes). The artist for LDM made a "new" cover for it. Here is the link: Click me
Seems he noticed all this removing hubris.
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@myskaros said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
For new series that haven't had volume 1 release yet and all future new series, color images will now be in the back instead.
So question, how will premium editions where the bonus is HQ images be handled? Does it make sense to have the regular versions of the images followed immediately by the same images in high quality at the end of the book? Will the premium editions simply forgo the standard quality illustrations in favour of the high quality ones so that the images won't repeat like that?
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@jpwong Interesting question; we haven't thought about it. Just from a consistency standpoint, it's more trouble to remove them, so they'd probably just have both versions. However, high-res illustrations are a pretty rare bonus, so I'm not sure when it would ever come up.
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@jpwong said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
@myskaros said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
For new series that haven't had volume 1 release yet and all future new series, color images will now be in the back instead.
So question, how will premium editions where the bonus is HQ images be handled? Does it make sense to have the regular versions of the images followed immediately by the same images in high quality at the end of the book? Will the premium editions simply forgo the standard quality illustrations in favour of the high quality ones so that the images won't repeat like that?
Usually the Bonus HQ images are textless and the normal ones are with text. Although I don't know every premium edition. But I am thinking about LDM etc.
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@myskaros What about the series Altina the Sword Princess? All the bonuses are very high resolution pictures and all the high resolution pictures have text on them. The previous volumes had the standard quality ones at the front and the high resolution ones in the back. How will this be handled? I like the high resolution ones and don't want to be lose them as they are the only bonus for that series.
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- For books that have been affected by the Amazon situation, we are converting them all to "color images in the back" before reuploading.
- For series that are longer than ~6 volumes, we're making a separate "Amazon version" with the color images in the back. Buying it on Kindle will have color images in the back, but premium/other webstores will be in the front.
- For all ongoing, unaffected series, color images will remain in the front for the rest of the series.
- For new series that haven't had volume 1 release yet and all future new series, color images will now be in the back instead.
Basically, the only series that are being changed are the ones that have been getting taken down from Amazon and new series.
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@morbelek if they decide to only use one picture you could bet that they use the HQ one in the premium version.
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@saskir said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
Usually the Bonus HQ images are textless and the normal ones are with text. Although I don't know every premium edition. But I am thinking about LDM etc.
Yeah, I only thought of it when I was looking through the newest bookworm epub (which I know isn't actually affected by this at all) and was just thinking that the images in the front of the book were textless and the bonus is HQ versions of the same textless images as far as I can see. Since I don't know what the Japanese vendor bonus situation is like, I was thinking it could happen down the road and it might look weird for some readers since depending on the reader you use, it literally just looks like the same images rather than a regular quality and a high quality set.
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Amazon is getting stupid now.
The manga for "Gal Gohan" and "My Monster Secret" have been removed from the Kindle store.
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@Chubby-Penguin The light novel for High School DxD has also been removed.
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I'm pretty pissed.
If every single volume of My Monster Secret can disappear without warning, then basically nothing on Kindle is safe.
Unless you can afford to get an entire series at once, it's not a viable source to get your manga and light novels anymore.
