Books/Preorders missing from Amazon
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@SomeOldGuy Kindle is preferred since it loads and turns pages images faster than other e-readers.
Just buy from Kobo, rip the drm and side load to the Kindle via Calibre.
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We (the readers and JNC) also have to address the fiasco with Amazon (No Game No Life [Yen Press], How Not to Summon a Demon Lord [JNC], I Shall Survive Using Potions [JNC], Clockwork Planet [JNC], etc.). For those who don't know, Amazon unlisted these specific LN off their platform (even though hentai is still being sold through the platform [ie Fakku]). I have accounts in both Amazon and Bookwalker. Granted being a premium member gets me a book per month, but it is slightly inconvenient for me to go to another app to read the files (usually have to pull the file in my download list). I still remember Amazon having issues with Hatsune Miku merchandise a few years ago too. You would think someone from Sony went to Amazon and caused a fuss.
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@Vine said in Books/Preorders missing from Amazon:
We (the readers and JNC) also have to address the fiasco with Amazon (No Game No Life [Yen Press], How Not to Summon a Demon Lord [JNC], I Shall Survive Using Potions [JNC], Clockwork Planet [JNC], etc.). For those who don't know, Amazon unlisted these specific LN off their platform (even though hentai is still being sold through the platform [ie Fakku]). I still remember Amazon having issues with Hatsune Miku merchandise a few years ago too. You would think someone from Sony went to Amazon and caused a fuss.
If companies don't want to stock any mature content that's their choice, but the lack of consistency is a little ridiculous. You don't see them rushing to ban popular western stuff like Game of Thrones that's a lot worse than the stuff being banned here.
License Wishlist: Kino's Journey, Crest/Banner anthology, SukaMoka
Favorite JNC Series: Bookworm, Faraway Paladin, Dendro, Grimgar, Crest/Banner of the Stars, Tearmoon Empire, Skull Dragon's Precious Daughter, Apothecary Diaries, Otome Heroine's Fight -
I can only hope readers wise up and purchase premiums instead.
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@yumenokage It's just unfortunate for JNC and other companies, Amazon probably makes up more than the majority of their profit. And many of the consumers probably purchased only based on the suggestions, never to have heard the series prior.
It sucks that one company can have another by the balls only for their self righteousness or whatever you want to call it.And if that doesn't change, will just end up 'hurting' us as then series that they don't think Amazon will allow potentially won't get considered for licensing and translation.
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@yumenokage I honestly think its worse than even that. I ask why is it that I cannot purchase the light novel for Grimgar from Amazon, but I can somehow still purchase the anime. Seriously this makes no frigging sense. Why is the novel so much worse apparently than the show.
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@Eternal-Wanderer Different laws and moral values. They weren't a problem when originally published in Japan and Amazon.jp would probably take a massive publicity hit if they started to apply American puritanical values to Japan.
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@jampodevral Isn't it the case that some (but not all) of the missing English versions are missing even from Amazon Japan? So they're already doing it. Not sure how many people there will notice if the Japanese language ones aren't affected, though.
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Another thought. Japanese publishers have not been super reliant on Ebooks for sales and they get a really large percent of their buy in from brick 'n mortars. I think that it would actually hurt Jp Amazon more to have Kadokawa pull all of their products from listings if Amazon execs were stupid enough to hurt the relationship between them. If you look at the way that many Japanese investment firms and corporations spiderweb out into multiple fields and network via long standing contracts, you could end up with several thousand product sku's dissapearing in a few days time as sibling companies and allied firms pull products.
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@Eternal-Wanderer The anime wouldn't have anything to do with the Kindle Content Review folks who are the ones taking down the Kindle versions. Even if this is happening because someone is purposefully doing it rather than because of an automated system (and right now, we don't know which it is), the person taking down the Kindle book likely would have no authority to do anything to the anime even if they wanted to. It would be handled by a different department. If this is because of a wider Amazon policy, then it's definitely arbitrary that the LN would be taken down but not the anime, but I'd bet that no one high enough up to push such a policy even has a clue that this is going on. It's probably either an automated system or a small number of jerks in the Kindle Content Review department that's causing the problem.
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@yumenokage If they pulled some Infinite Stratos books the some of the stuff on the page you get by looking up the japanese name should absolutely not be there.
But I don't know Japanese well enough to look up individual volumes.But they still sell fleshlights and dildos. Plus publish book series that are just barely held together plotlines revolving around written porn.
Fucking hipocrites.
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@Kalessin The 5 or 6 people who actaully work in that department probably don't care. The book gets X amount of flags for Y reason and the system pulls it. Yay, cancel culture.
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https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B08D1YVT1Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=B08D1YVT1Z&qid=1594901657&sr=8-1
The first volume of Grimgar is back on Amazon Kindle but the bath illustration is removed from the preview. -
Can anyone confirm if the illustration was instead moved to the back of the volume or this only affected the Amazon Preview?
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@Village-Idiot on animenewsnetwork Sam mentioned removal in the Amazon copy only I believe so I reckon it's removal
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@ShipTeaser Okay, so Amazon gets censored LNs now. I'd completely avoid buying any manga/LNs from Kindle from now on.
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So I bought the new version of Grimgar vol 1 and it definitely doesn't have the bath scene. So yeah Amazon now sell censored version.
Also I'm pretty sure the banned are done manually otherwise vol 7, 14 and 14+ should also have been banned.
I wonder if JNC will do it for other series, because it doesn't really matter for a series like Grimgar if it's missing a bath scene in vol 1, but for series like How not to summon or Infinite Stratos the lewd are a big part of the series appeal
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Well, I was already going to experiment with Kobo by buying Behemoth v1 from there, but now I've cancelled my sole remaining July pre-order: Sword Oratoria v12.... coincidentally, it's probably only a matter of time until at least Danmachi v5 and Sword Oratoria v5 get the axe. Several other Danmachi volumes could be questionable... like v12 and its cover.
The real experiment would be buying raw manga from Kobo; I can bypass region locks on Amazon.co.jp, but I've never tried with Kobo.
My talking sword has a point. And is also right.
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I buy from Kobo (and occasionally Google Play) but be aware they are just as woke as Amazon (or at least the US staff is ). So it is inevitable that these things will happen there too. If you really want to support the author and story it is better to buy the premiums. Going through a reseller is always going to earn JNC less money (less than half the amount) per unit.
Relying on 3rd-party sellers to be good business partners in this cultural moment is an iffy proposition. I only buy LN's from other companies on Kobo now.
I've even seen Paypal and credit card processing companies get in on the act to shut down "PC moral offenders". Eventually it may get back to the point of mail-order or even cash transactions at cons. It is a dark time... this is why so many companies are more than happy to bend the knee and parrot the talking points -- safer that than going against the mob. The problem is the people bending the knee seem not to know history... it starts with little concessions, it ends with re-education camps and mass murder. We've only seen it happen over and over, so it should be obvious what is going on -- but for some reason everybody assumes it can't happen here. The irony of it is the types of people who make up the woke mob are usually among the first who get killed off or imprisoned after a communist revolution -- the new government is not interested in tolerating rabble rousers. Some sort of weird Karmic justice in that.
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People with their library purchases from Kindle may want to start backing up their LN purchases and rip the drm from them in case Kindle auto-updates the volumes with the censored version.
You may want to do this with Grimgar Volume 1 before that happens.
