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@sam-pinansky said in Expiring Volumes!:
Expiring March 15th:
- Paying to Win in a VRMMO: Volume 6
- How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom: Volume 5
- Clockwork Planet: Volume 3
Working on these this month. I guess I should work on some of the new LNs after this until the April expirees go up.
Gotta buy Big Sis novel 7 too.
Expiring April 15th:
- How NOT to Summon a Demon Lord: Volume 2
- Occultic;Nine: Volume 3
- [New Life+] Young Again in Another World
- Walking My Second Path in Life: Volume 2
And there we go. The rest of the ones I need to finish for April.
I'm feeling a bit cruddy today, so I'm hoping I can rest up and feel good about going through these. No more stressful competitive multiplayer games for me. T.T
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@paul-nebeling No, I posted that in January when For My Daughter and Smartphone were the catchup titles.
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Bumpity bumpity
@sam-pinansky said in Expiring Volumes!:
Expiring April 15th:
- How NOT to Summon a Demon Lord: Volume 2
- Occultic;Nine: Volume 3
- [New Life+] Young Again in Another World
- Walking My Second Path in Life: Volume 2
- Infinite Dendrogram: Volume 5
- In Another World With My Smartphone: Volume 7
- Arifureta: From Commonplace to World's Strongest: Volume 5
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I got time to slack around 😅
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@terrence said in Expiring Volumes!:
@sam-pinansky said in Expiring Volumes!:
Expiring March 15th:Paying to Win in a VRMMO: Volume 6How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom: Volume 5Clockwork Planet: Volume 3
Expiring April 15th:
- How NOT to Summon a Demon Lord: Volume 2
- Occultic;Nine: Volume 3
[New Life+] Young Again in Another World- Walking My Second Path in Life: Volume 2
Bumpity bump and crossing out stuff so I know what to read next.
Occultic Nine will probably be a purchase, so pretty clear I gotta focus on Realist Hero... And then I got some room to catch up with Rokuojouma if I feel like it.
Edit: March novels read. April will be a bit tough though since some of these are more embarrassing to blast over my phone speakers in public. Headphones time, lol. =P
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Expiring May 15th:
- The Master of Ragnarok & Blesser of Einherjar: Volume 1
- Ao Oni: Vengeance (Volume 2)
- I Saved Too Many Girls and Caused the Apocalypse: Volume 7
- Demon King Daimaou: Volume 4
- Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash: Volume 8
- Me, a Genius? I Was Reborn into Another World and I Think They've Got the Wrong Idea! Volume 1
- If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord: Volume 4
- The Faraway Paladin: Volume 4
- Arifureta Zero: Volume 1
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Expiring May 15th:
- The Master of Ragnarok & Blesser of Einherjar: Volume 1
- Ao Oni: Vengeance (Volume 2)
- I Saved Too Many Girls and Caused the Apocalypse: Volume 7
- Demon King Daimaou: Volume 4
- Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash: Volume 8
- Me, a Genius? I Was Reborn into Another World and I Think They've Got the Wrong Idea! Volume 1
- If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord: Volume 4
- The Faraway Paladin: Volume 4
Arifureta Zero
Definitely reading the bolded. Dunno about Arifureta (I haven't kept up with the main series).
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@terrence said in Expiring Volumes!:
Arifureta Zero
Definitely reading the bolded. Dunno about Arifureta (I haven't kept up with the main series).
My two cents: Arifureta Zero was better than Arifureta. It has the world/world-building of Arifureta without Hajime being edgy or the narration randomly interrupting itself to talk about how beautiful his harem is (aka my two biggest pet peeves in the main series). Villains are still 1-dimensional caricatures though.
That said, it's hard to separate motivation for a prequel series from it's main series for me.
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wtf? I pay for this stupid scam site when I could just as easily not and the content periodically disappears?
im sort of beyond words right now
like the stuff I'm paying you for is online, elsewhere, for free if I just let my fingers do the walking... but no, I sort of want to "support the cause" or whatever - and you dont even give me access to the content. its like if netflix had a membership fee and also made me pay by the episode.
whatever.
grats you got my 5 dollars.
I hope you enjoy it because you're not getting anymore.edit: also in my netflix analogy the entirety of the netflix catalogue is behind a curtain that says "Do not look behind pretty please."
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@sinkingship They're pretty open with the fact that the sub won't give you more than the two monthly series plus latest prepubs (if you read the How It Works page before subscribing), calling it a scam is pretty harsh. Two full series are also unexpired to become open to read every month, I think $5 for a dozen or two volumes a month isn't too bad. You could really just ignore the subscription and buy books from Amazon like a normal reader to "support the cause" if you still consider the subscription to be poor value.
its like if netflix had a membership fee and also made me pay by the episode
IMO the monthly credit makes it more like Audible's membership, though that's a premium tier thing.
I'll be honest though I agree somewhat in that I really don't think the basic membership is worth it in the long run unless you're the kind of person who doesn't care about being able to read what you want when you want and are happy to just read whatever they decided to make available that month. At least the premium membership will let you 'keep' about two series for yourself. I guess though that if they didn't make it this way they would have trouble convincing people to buy books, or would have to raise the price well beyond $5/mo to stay profitable.
I also agree that at first glance, without actually reading the description of how the site works before going on to subscribe and just skimming through instead, it can be easy to make mistaken assumptions about what exactly the $5 a month is buying. On the "How It Works" page, you actually need to click a "Learn More" to see the "Prepub releases available only until final ebook published, so become a member today!" part of the explanation. Maybe an interface issue to correct, @sam-pinansky
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Yup. Completely on me; like I said. Ofc what a reasonable person would assume their five dollars a month would buy them from a place like this (when looking at comparable sites ala crunchyroll or something) has no relation at all to what a person actually receives.
so like i said gg
you got my 5 bucks
fool me once and all that
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@sinkingship
The only thing I can say is that you should've asked in the forums first about the whole system before paying. Unfortunately, what's done is done. You should just enjoy the series that still has their volume 1 and wait for the next Catch Up Series next month so that your $5 won't go to waste.Or you could read Rokujouma since volumes 1-22 will never expire.
JNC LN Ranking:
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@sinkingship Yes, I agree that the existence of Netflix, Crunchyroll etc can lead to mistaken assumptions, which is why I believe the How It Works page needs to be much, much clearer with the "Prepubs only open until final book is published, except when on catchup" part so things like this don't happen. Things would definitely be much simpler if expiry didn't happen at all, but most of the profit probably comes from people buying books on Amazon so they wouldn't want to cut into that.
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@sinkingship One wonders if you realize how little $5 actually buys you in this day and age. I'm equating you to someone that has a free CR subscription, then complains about the advertising. All of us, even the Premium members, live with the same title availability. The benefit of membership is being able to read the prepub and then deciding if you want to buy the ebook or not. Catchup months are icing on the cake.
As for me, I'm a Premium member, and I greatly appreciate both the free credit every month, and the $1 discount on additional credits. Not to mention that the Premium E-books here are both less expensive and have bonus content than what you get from the retailers. Almost makes me feel like I'm in Japan getting bonus content from bookstores.
And since I'm building a library that will include well over 100 volumes, that "measly" $1 discount adds up quick. I've already spent at least $80 extra on credits. Rokujouma and Smartphone both have a lot of volumes.
The business model is to translate and sell books that otherwise wouldn't see the light of day in English speaking countries. Without @sam-pinansky we would all be at the mercy of Yen Press.
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@paul-nebeling To play the devil's advocate, it's still an easy enough mistake to make if you don't read the "How It Works" page closely, owing to the existence of such subscription services as Crunchyroll, Netflix and Kindle Unlimited which grant access to the whole catalog for a single monthly fee. One might reasonably expect the J-novel club "streaming" service to function similarly at first glance were it not to be made absolutely clear up front that it does not. One might then understandably feel somewhat sore having one's expectations turn out to be short of the mark having already paid for the service.
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@Paul-Nebeling
Here's the experience I had with this site:- My favorite fan translator says "pop on by those guys are doing something cool and we should support it"
- I click on volume one of something I've read a dozen times before; but what the heck sometimes fan tl and official tl are different
- 15 minutes later, I hit the paywall - "click this button to become a member" it says.
- So I do that.
- Oh. Whoops. Turns out that doesn't actually let me continue reading.
...that's not misleading at all
All in all it was a 10/10 experience.
And you say at the mercy of yen press like it's a bad thing. Up until today I've bought every light novel I own from Yen Press and I have four more on pre-order right now. Mostly because they don't charge me a subscription for the privilege of ...???
i dunno what this thing I paid for does...
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@sinkingship you could just buy the ebooks instead of the subscription, if you feel cheated out of money just email support@j-novel.club and ask for a refund cause you jumped on a sub too fast.
As for being at the mercy of yen press I am on the side of more light novels overseas fast and well translated, so JNC all the way Yen press is a stain on the overseas light novel fan.
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@sinkingship That was similar to my experience, though I did some research before pulling the trigger on the membership.
Anyway, while this won't wipe away your bad experience, know that each month a couple series are on "catch up," meaning members can read all volumes that were released for that series. Only a few days left in March, but right now it's Arifureta and Infinite Dendrogram. Soon we'll know what's on offer for April, so it might be the series you want to read.
To look at it from the other side, JNC is still new enough that giving members infinite access to the entire backlog could easily result in people signing up for 1-3 months, reading everything, then canceling. This isn't great when they're looking for sustained memberships. But yeah, I don't think the current model is great either.
To sum up, I completely agree that this model is counterintuitive and the website needs to be fatally clear that you cannot read non-catch up prepubs with a membership.
