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    • kualiK
      kuali Premium Member @Folker46
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      @folker46 I think what really killed that one for me was when they kept on introducing new Monster Girls after Lala completed the core harem, most of which became one-arc wonders. Not around long enough for you to get attached to, but still sucking lots of screen time away from the actual cast (except Darling).

      Personally, I actually found the monsters-in-human-society plots and the interactions between the monster girls more interesting than any of their individual relationships with Darling. So if I was going to cut someone from that series, it wouldn't be Cerea or Papi or the others; I'd cut 'Darling'. Make the implausibly-large house that Smith keeps remodelling into a government-run boarding house for the girls who can't - or won't - be placed with regular families. (Or possibly keep him, but have him as the person hired to manage the boarding house, rather than as everyone's communal love interest.)

      https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/6701/omnibus-builder
      https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/5745/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-omnibus-editions

      The Primal Desires: Food, Sleep, Sex, StroZero, Hypnotism, and Awayuki Kokorone.

      Item Diaria Apothecaria legi debent.

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        poisonedbite @kuali
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        @kuali personally, I'd have preferred just miia and papi myself. Anything past 2 or 3 girls is just redundant.

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          HarmlessDave Premium Member @salientmind
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          @salientmind - Strongest Rearguard has some good powers-based battles and a decent handling of the power creep, and the labyrinth country is an interesting setting.

          I agree that the harem members don't get much character development though they do get some. Each novel has only covered a few days so there hasn't been a lot of time for major changes with the non-stop battles.

          As for them all thinking the MC is awesome, that's pretty typical for LNs and he is the strongest (most OP) rearguard not a "zero to hero" style weakest rearguard.

          I'm still enjoying it as of volume 6, but that's just me.

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            endoftheline @HarmlessDave
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            @harmlessdave I agree on the power creep being done well, as long as we're talking about time in units of volumes. But in terms of in-universe time, I wouldn't really call the present power curve a "creep" given that only three-ish weeks passed in the first 5 volumes and everyone else thinks of growth in terms of months and years.

            I think the author really shot themselves in the foot by starting the cast off in district 8, but then required them to blitz their way to district 5 to rescue Elitia's friend. So regardless of the MC's view on their current behavior, they pretty much have to rush around to gain power and friends to make it there; there simply isn't time available to simply stop and smell the roses.

            P.S. I'm waiting for volume 6 to arrive in the mail, so I'm currently limited by my knowledge through volume 5. But I'm also not expecting volume 6 to affect any of the criticism I wrote.

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            • saidahgilbertS
              saidahgilbert @Folker46
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              @folker46 Yeah, I was going to say that I like the Seven Seas editions as well. Thick books feel nicer to me than thin books. When reading, I can just flip the pages and see a whole thick book still to read so I know that there are hours and hours to read.

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              • saidahgilbertS
                saidahgilbert @kuali
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                @kuali So the monster version of Love Hina?

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                  • Rahul BalagganR
                    Rahul Balaggan Staff
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                    Hello,

                    As I said earlier in the topic, let’s avoid going down the real world politics route in this topic.

                    The topic has been (for the most part) very on point, and a great way to discuss things that frustrate us about something we all really enjoy.

                    A win win, for discussing what we enjoy, while admitting that we know they can be better.

                    If we continue to steer down the real world politics discussion, where it is less about the books and more about real world politics, then I will lock the topic.

                    Please, let us all avoid the topic being locked down.

                    Thank you
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                    • AvatarianA
                      Avatarian
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                      TBH, I hate how many titles with almost exactly the same premise over and over are translated. It's like listening to the same song on repeat with only one or two words changed on each repetition.

                      Since i opened the can of worms, if they are going to just hunt the same tropes time and time again, I wish the good translators at least pick the LN I am interested in so MTL doesn't become mandatory.

                      This 2022 I will definitely make senpai notice me!!!

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                      • kualiK
                        kuali Premium Member @Avatarian
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                        @avatarian Well, the forum does have a 'licensing suggestions' section, so you can at least make some suggestions for some more original future licences...

                        I mean, it won't make the problem go away (jumping on the bandwagon is pretty common in entertainment in general, rather than being a problem specific to JNC), but at least you might be able to jump the stuff you're interested in to the top of the queue.

                        https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/6701/omnibus-builder
                        https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/5745/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-omnibus-editions

                        The Primal Desires: Food, Sleep, Sex, StroZero, Hypnotism, and Awayuki Kokorone.

                        Item Diaria Apothecaria legi debent.

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                          HarmlessDave Premium Member @Avatarian
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                          @avatarian - yes, for example there are stacks of "game villainess attempts to escape her fate" stories right now and JNC is publishing several of them. But they can still be distinct enough from each other to be worth reading.

                          A one-sentence description of the plot doesn't tell you whether it's a generic trope-fest or is fun like Forget Being the Villainess, I Want to Be an Adventurer! It also feels very different from I Refuse To Be Your Enemy, or Villainess Reloaded, or (not from JNC) I’d Rather Have a Cat than a Harem!

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                            kuali Premium Member @HarmlessDave
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                            @harmlessdave I have to at least give I Refuse To Be Your Enemy props for using the villainess from a non-Otome game. I think that's the only time I've actually seen a series use a game from a different genre...

                            https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/6701/omnibus-builder
                            https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/5745/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-omnibus-editions

                            The Primal Desires: Food, Sleep, Sex, StroZero, Hypnotism, and Awayuki Kokorone.

                            Item Diaria Apothecaria legi debent.

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                              Folker46 @Kalani
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                              @kalani You're missing out, the manga for The Apothecary Diaries is really good and funny.

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                                TheGrimLich Member @kuali
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                                @kuali said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                                @harmlessdave I have to at least give I Refuse To Be Your Enemy props for using the villainess from a non-Otome game. I think that's the only time I've actually seen a series use a game from a different genre...

                                I loved the fact that that one had the game be not-Fire-Emblem. The other twist the series pulled on the formula was also interesting.

                                My grasp on sanity remains absolute.

                                Oh, right, the poison, the poison for Kuzco, the poison chosen especially to kill Kuzco, Kuzco's poison. ...That poison?

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                                  salientmind Premium Member @kuali
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                                  @kuali is Her Majesty's Swarm another example? Since it's an RTS, she isn't exactly in the role of the villain. But the bugger do eat people.

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                                    kuali Premium Member @salientmind
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                                    @salientmind Maybe? Sorry, I haven't read that one.

                                    https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/6701/omnibus-builder
                                    https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/5745/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-omnibus-editions

                                    The Primal Desires: Food, Sleep, Sex, StroZero, Hypnotism, and Awayuki Kokorone.

                                    Item Diaria Apothecaria legi debent.

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                                      rsog412 Premium Member @salientmind
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                                      @salientmind - I don't think the protagonist of that story cares much about not being a villainess. I'd put it closer to Overlord than to any of the villainess titles.

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                                        TheGrimLich Member @rsog412
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                                        @rsog412 Yeah, HMS strikes me as more an Overlord type of title. It's also seemingly designed off an RTS like Starcraft or Warcraft, which... well, there are occasionally villains in those, but more often than not the campaign mode of those games has you play at least a few missions as each side, so...

                                        Like, in an otome game, you don't play as the rival, or if you do it's because there's a reveal that you've been playing as a rival this whole time. But that's not the case with an RTS.

                                        About the only RTS I can think of where you don't have to play as the antagonist/villain faction is the Command & Conquer series.

                                        My grasp on sanity remains absolute.

                                        Oh, right, the poison, the poison for Kuzco, the poison chosen especially to kill Kuzco, Kuzco's poison. ...That poison?

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                                          Kalani @Folker46
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                                          @folker46 said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                                          @kalani You're missing out, the manga for The Apothecary Diaries is really good and funny.

                                          I'll probably read it when its on catch up since its my favourite light novel series.

                                          I just started getting physical manga of Apothecary Diaries in since there's no physical copies of the light novel. I haven't cracked them open yet though. (probably won't until I've got 4+)

                                          Reading: Ascendance of a Bookworm; Apothecary Diaries; Holmes of Kyoto; The Reincarnated Princess Spends Another Day Skipping Story Routes

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                                            GeorgeMTO @Kalani
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                                            @kalani unfortunately it will never be on catchup, JNC don't do the manga for Apothecary.

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