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    • WaterDwellerW
      WaterDweller Premium Member @unknownmat
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      @unknownmat said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

      But, while watching one such older show recently, all I found myself thinking was, "What a great idea! No sweaty sheet. No flailing limbs. No jostling. I'd love to switch to a pair of twin beds." I just need to find a way to break it to my wife...

      It seems that an increasing number of adult couples do what I've heard go by the term "living apart together", where they live separately, yet come together/visit each other on a regular basis. While it might take things a step further than simply maintaining separate beds, or even separate bedrooms, it honestly sounds to me like a pretty nice way to go about things, assuming both can afford to maintain their own place. Reduces the chances that they'll get tired of each other or start getting on each other's nerves, and whenever they want to spend a night or two or a week together, one can simply visit the other for that time period.

      (Edit: and it just occured to me that this is completely off topic for the thread, so apologies for that)

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        unknownmat Premium Member @WaterDweller
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        @waterdweller said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

        (Edit: and it just occured to me that this is completely off topic for the thread, so apologies for that)

        No worries. I don't think it's so off-topic if you consider that this same problem would definitely arise in any real-world harem, but rarely gets addressed in LNs (not to mention the internal bickering between the wives themselves).

        People you are around all the time can really get on your nerves. As Benjamin Franklin noted, "Guests and fish smell after three days." Wise words to live by.

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        • CampbellaC
          Campbella Member @unknownmat
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          @unknownmat said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

          Honestly, all those multiparty napping scenes just leave me feeling exhausted - "Jesus, that can't be very restful".

          Late Start Tamer recently had parts with his tamed monsters sleeping with him and his response over time as the cute factor wears off is so funny to me

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            salientmind Premium Member @WaterDweller
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            @waterdweller this is actually very relevant, because in addition to sleeping together, all these harems live together.

            Anyone whose had multiple roommates can tell you that maintaining a group environment without emotions/sex is difficult. Meanwhile Souma has a bunch of wives. Most of these harem series rely on an very competent "first wife" to effortlessly manage the rest.

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            • Folker46F
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              Interesting or at least funny stories that die. Reincarnated as a Vending Machine, Sorcerer King of Destruction, and S Class Monster were pretty good, but not great, stories that just stopped after a few chapters. I kind of understood why but I still feel that with more world building they could have gotten a wider audience.

              Dungeon Busters suffers from the author having the wrong character as the MC. The old guy MC is boring and gets too much attention while the young girl with monsters as pets gets almost nothing, yet she is MUCH more interesting to read about then him. I do hate the illustrations in the LN though, mega boobs just look stupid.

              The point being when an author almost ignores a better character because they are wedded to the MC they started with.

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                kuali Premium Member @Folker46
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                @folker46 I'd probably put Erica Aurelia down as my 'interesting, died too early' entry.

                Not sure if I'd consider 'died to early' or 'went on too long' as being worse, but I can't say I'm a fan of either.

                https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/6701/omnibus-builder
                https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/5745/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-omnibus-editions

                The Primal Desires: Food, Sleep, Sex, StroZero, Hypnotism, and Awayuki Kokorone.

                Item Diaria Apothecaria legi debent.

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                • Lily GardenL
                  Lily Garden Member @kuali
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                  @kuali said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                  @folker46 I'd probably put Erica Aurelia down as my 'interesting, died too early' entry.

                  Not sure if I'd consider 'died to early' or 'went on too long' as being worse, but I can't say I'm a fan of either.

                  'Died too early' is worse in my opinion because with 'went on too long' at least some readers are enjoying it and the author is still getting paid, but with 'died too early' no one is happy

                  “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                  • kualiK
                    kuali Premium Member @Lily Garden
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                    @lily-garden That's true, I suppose. Plus, there's nothing keeping you from dropping an overlong series once you've hit the point of diminishing returns, but there's no easy way to keep reading one that got cancelled early...

                    https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/6701/omnibus-builder
                    https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/5745/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-omnibus-editions

                    The Primal Desires: Food, Sleep, Sex, StroZero, Hypnotism, and Awayuki Kokorone.

                    Item Diaria Apothecaria legi debent.

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                      salientmind Premium Member @Folker46
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                      @folker46 said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                      I do hate the illustrations in the LN though, mega boobs just look stupid.

                      On the topic of illustrations, it's annoying when they are hyper sexual when the content of the book is... not.

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                        SomeOldGuy Premium Member @salientmind
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                        @salientmind Like the manga version of Realist Hero, where the breast sizes would need to require using magic to be able to move around?

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                        • MasterLillyclawM
                          MasterLillyclaw Premium Member @kuali
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                          @kuali said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                          I'd probably put Erica Aurelia down as my 'interesting, died too early' entry.

                          Lies down
                          Tries not to cry
                          Cries a lot ToT

                          One of the only series where I was like “Fine! I’ll read MTL, just give me more!”

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                          • Folker46F
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                            Another grievance I have is with Tanya the Evil. It's a good story but then the writer jumps ahead 40 years and gives away what happens to the Empire and who won the war. The only saving grace to that is that Tanya's very existence is a state secret no one is supposed to talk about, so we don't know whether she survived the war, died in a prison camp, is still fighting Being-x, or is an officer in the new Federal Republic. I just wish the writer had NOT shown us the future, it toke away a lot of the suspense.

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                              kuali Premium Member @Folker46
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                              @folker46 The story follows the fantasy version of Imperial Germany in a war that's taking elements from WW1 (that Germany lost) and WW2 (that Germany lost). I have to admit, I kinda saw that outcome coming...

                              I do get your point about random flash-forwards, though. It is a real dramatic-tension-killer. Actually, I think even worse than Tanya are the series that do that right in the prologue of the first volume. My Quiet Blacksmith Life in Another World and... I think it was Late-Start Tamer?... come to mind there.

                              https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/6701/omnibus-builder
                              https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/5745/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-omnibus-editions

                              The Primal Desires: Food, Sleep, Sex, StroZero, Hypnotism, and Awayuki Kokorone.

                              Item Diaria Apothecaria legi debent.

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                                HarmlessDave Premium Member @MasterLillyclaw
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                                @masterlillyclaw said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                                @kuali said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                                I'd probably put Erica Aurelia down as my 'interesting, died too early' entry.

                                Lies down
                                Tries not to cry
                                Cries a lot ToT

                                One of the only series where I was like “Fine! I’ll read MTL, just give me more!”

                                Yes, that was one I really liked :(

                                How awful is the MTL? Is it better than gibberish? (I don't read fan TLs, but reading the WN itself is legal.)

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                                  HarmlessDave Premium Member @kuali
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                                  @kuali said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                                  @folker46 The story follows the fantasy version of Imperial Germany in a war that's taking elements from WW1 (that Germany lost) and WW2 (that Germany lost). I have to admit, I kinda saw that outcome coming...

                                  I do get your point about random flash-forwards, though. It is a real dramatic-tension-killer. Actually, I think even worse than Tanya are the series that do that right in the prologue of the first volume. My Quiet Blacksmith Life in Another World and... I think it was Late-Start Tamer?... come to mind there.

                                  Oh, that is another thing I hate. Spoiler prologues trying to act as teasers and giving away the plot.

                                  Loner Life volume 1 does that too, as I mentioned earlier. The book is better if you skip that part and then read it near the end.

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                                    MasterLillyclaw Premium Member @HarmlessDave
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                                    @harmlessdave said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                                    How awful is the MTL? Is it better than gibberish? (I don't read fan TLs, but reading the WN itself is legal.)

                                    I don’t have a lot of MTL experience; I try to avoid it if at all possible, really. With that in mind, it was “normal” MTL in that it was bad but I dealt with it anyways.

                                    (The only reason I dived in for DDD is because of the current bleakness of future LNs + there being so much more in the WN. Like, last I remember, it started either the penultimate or the final arc somewhat recently. So if MTL is the only way I could read that, for me it was worth it despite the gibberish.)

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                                      HarmlessDave Premium Member @MasterLillyclaw
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                                      @masterlillyclaw said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                                      @harmlessdave said in Hate on what you Love. Let's air our grievances.:

                                      How awful is the MTL? Is it better than gibberish? (I don't read fan TLs, but reading the WN itself is legal.)

                                      I don’t have a lot of MTL experience; I try to avoid it if at all possible, really. With that in mind, it was “normal” MTL in that it was bad but I dealt with it anyways.

                                      (The only reason I dived in for DDD is because of the current bleakness of future LNs + there being so much more in the WN. Like, last I remember, it started either the penultimate or the final arc somewhat recently. So if MTL is the only way I could read that, for me it was worth it despite the gibberish.)

                                      Thanks! That's another two for the Hate list:

                                      Business reasons keep JNC from even trying to rescue license WNs for a JNC series that was canceled in Japan :(

                                      Japanese publishers are slow to switch to digital-only releases for less successful titles.

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                                        unknownmat Premium Member
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                                        Oh! I just thought of one...

                                        The cover art for a significant majority of LN series is so raunchy that I can't even support series I like by purchasing the physical volume. Arifureta or Lazy Dungeon Master would be two examples. I'm not about to prominently display images of scantily clad underaged girls (often with ridiculous proportions) in my home library. I should note that anime figurines and posters are also right-out for similar reasons (or would be if I liked collecting such things, which I don't and never have).

                                        With a few exceptions, such as Bookworm, I am an eBook only reader, despite having the disposable income to much more fully support my hobby were any such options available.

                                        I realize that I'm much older than the target demographic for most of these series so maybe this is an unreasonable expectation.

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                                          salientmind Premium Member @unknownmat
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                                          @unknownmat I am right there with you. Even when I was in my 20"s, there was no chance of me buying a figure or books with certain covers. It's just not a conversation I want to have with people.

                                          I plan to buy the bookworm fan books, and I will likely by all the physical volumes.

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                                            kuali Premium Member @unknownmat
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                                            @unknownmat Hmm... Looking down the volumes in my subscribed series list, there's actually not a lot in the way of raunchy covers. Cooking with Wild Game's probably the worst offender (since the women of the Forest Edge are basically walking around in modern beachwear and, occasionally, veils). Whearas the romances are all relatively tasteful (admittedly, stuff like Dahlia in Bloom and Marielle Clarac probably weren't trying to market themselves to teenage boys in the first place), and even the front cover for JK Haru is a Sex Worker in Another World is pretty tame.

                                            (Admittedly, I never read Arifureta and LDM).

                                            But yeah, I skipped out on stuff like figurines and posters as well.

                                            I'm actually an 'ebooks only' buyer, too, but in my case it was for commuting reasons (loading them onto my phone is way more convenient than carrying books to work and back) rather than being scared off by the covers.

                                            https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/6701/omnibus-builder
                                            https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/5745/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-omnibus-editions

                                            The Primal Desires: Food, Sleep, Sex, StroZero, Hypnotism, and Awayuki Kokorone.

                                            Item Diaria Apothecaria legi debent.

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