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    • LeavesCatL
      LeavesCat Premium Member @Parity
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      @Parity said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

      Next you'll say it's actually a Matrioshka World

      That is actually one of the potential explanations behind the gravity situation that I considered. If the surface is a (relatively) thin shell while the interior is hollow, surface gravity could be reasonably normal. That's not the route I'm planning to go, but still. There could easily be caves the size of planets.

      Effectively this is a consequence of kid me thinking "wouldn't it be cool if the planet is cosmically gigantic? You'd need FTL spaceships to cross the ocean! After all, with a normal planet, high-level RPG protagonists should be able to move at such high speeds that a normal planet would run out of space real quick (see Goku, who I didn't know about at the time)." Originally I intended to have multiple suns orbiting the planet (which is technically still true, but they're far enough away to appear as stars), but I realized that there was no way to get a consistent day/night cycle that way. Instead, various regions will have their own style of light source... or be permanently dark. Not that any story arc I have planned will travel too far away from the sun's influence.

      Anyway, the thoughts from back then collided with "why are unwanted harems so goddamn popular? I'm a much bigger fan of the power couple trope. Fuck it, I'll do it myself!"

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      • AngelusA
        Angelus Member
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        FINALLY I have the ball rolling again, and that's even after my PC kept having to have Windows reinstalled so I got a new one in the end. I eventually figured out how to get through the parts of the story I was stuck at and this anime season doesn't seem to have much I'm interested in so that will help too.

        I'm averaging around 750 words a day now so I should be able to hit 70,000 or so by the final submission date. Will that be enough to finish off the story properly? I hope so!

        After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
        —Tearmoon Empire

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        • kingpendragonK
          kingpendragon Premium Member @LeavesCat
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          @LeavesCat
          Well, people will talk endlessly about anything when they are complaining:

          "Oh, move to the Sunlit Kingdom!" they said. "It is warm and bright all the time, unlike life here on Dark Island!" they said. "You will never have to spend a single coin on firewood!" Now I have no firewood, the weather is cold because of some nonsense called "winter" and the stupid sun only shines for half of the time! I've been f*&%#g scammed!

          "Some stupid merchant built a six-story shop a million miles west from here and now I can't see the beach on my telescope!"

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          • GamenG
            Gamen Premium Member @LeavesCat
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            @LeavesCat Geez, that's reminding me of the Little Garden in Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai kara Kurusou Desu yo. However even it is only the size of a star.

            My talking sword has a point. And is also right.

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            • LeavesCatL
              LeavesCat Premium Member @kingpendragon
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              @kingpendragon Well, due to actual plot-related reasons, there's only the one country (that anyone knows about. The planet is inconceivably massive, so there's other countries, they're just a few hundred lightyears away). The plot would be contained within a ~10,000 mile wide area. The main effects the planetary scale has on the story is line of sight (get on a big mountain and you can see the whole country with enough magic), as well as providing limitless wilderness for anyone that might have reason to hide. If you're strong enough to survive, that is.

              But, far enough into the future, those statements could very well happen.

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              • cathfachC
                cathfach Premium Member
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                I’ve tried doing abnormal astronomy a few times, but I’ve never had much success. The big one is that if you have the length of a year being different from an Earth year, many readers will forget or outright ignore it, however often you remind them. I had one world with longer years, and the number of complaints it generated about people acting too mature/having inappropriate relationships/etc was silly. I’ve sworn never to do that again.

                In another story, I tried to sidestep that problem by doing away with years entirely, but that just resulted in me forgetting instead. >.> The number of times I caught myself writing dialogue for in-world characters that mentioned years was silly.

                A galactic sized planet has the advantage that it’s so alien that you kinda have to remember it, because the effects pervade everything. That’s exactly what I’d recommend; if you’re going to modify astronomy, don’t just make small tweaks. Do something ridiculous. Or just have a better memory for your own world building than I do. That would work too. :)

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                • LeavesCatL
                  LeavesCat Premium Member @cathfach
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                  @cathfach Units are a thing I've thought about. In the end, I decided to just use Earth units for things so that I don't have to be concerned about people (including me) forgetting what time of day 5 PM is. The sun's weird enough as it is since I can't say it's rising or setting. And if a guy runs through a 100 mile forest in 3 hours, I want the reader to know he's going at a superhuman speed. With absolutely no common frame of reference between our worlds (another thing branding as an isekai can do), fantasy units would be impossible to parse.

                  I figure it's easiest to change nothing and say the story was localized for our convenience.

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                  • jazzyjeoffJ
                    jazzyjeoff @Parity
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                    @Parity I am sort of in the same boat. I adore “Tearmoon Empire” because it manages to portray tragic events convincingly, while still being a comedic and uplifting story—and I think I’ve been able to somewhat successfully emulate that in my “Tearmoon” fanfics—but the tone of my current story is much darker and I am afraid that I might lose my audience before I get to the warmer parts (and while there is some humor in the story, it is scarce, and often dark)

                    On the plus side, I think I should have something to submit—even if it is at a very svelte 40K words (almost). It doesn’t help that my supposed proofreader flaked out on me, so I hope that what I submit is readable.

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                    • jazzyjeoffJ
                      jazzyjeoff
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                      Finally found someone to proofread my story—they’ve already started!
                      I am way more excited than I should be. I don’t even think I will ask what they think of the story—I am afraid of the answer. But it just makes me so happy that I get some sort of a response from someone that has actually read what I wrote—even if that response is just a grammar corrections.
                      It is so pathetic, I know—but a happy sort of pathetic!

                      edit: just noticed I had at least one grammar error in my sentence about grammar corrections—I think I will let that one stay.
                      So, she found a ton of errors—no surprise—but she said that she liked the story—maybe she was just being nice —but I’ll take it!

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                      • AngelusA
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                        I've written 6,000 words in the past 7 days so I'm pretty pleased with that, but it's not taken me that much closer to completion. Because I write from the outside in, and then I opened up a sort of "second front" by writing another unconnected section when I was trying to get unstuck a while back, I now have two gaps to fill. One of them will be fine, but the other one is kind of the crux of the whole thing and I can't see it being anything other than really boring because it's about a guy trying to work stuff out from books. Anyway, having got this far I shall soldier on.

                        @jazzyjeoff I have 2 people reading drafts of my story, but all they ever say is that they like it. I know it can't really be that good so I need them to tell me what's wrong with it in time for me to fix it!

                        After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
                        —Tearmoon Empire

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                          morbelek Premium Member @Angelus
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                          @Angelus said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

                          the other one is kind of the crux of the whole thing and I can't see it being anything other than really boring because it's about a guy trying to work stuff out from books.

                          Oh I love those kind of stories. Regis pulling the correct answer from books and while Mia pulls well, a (wrong) answer from the book, are fascinating to read.

                          It's even weirder when the book itself is wrong, but it all works out anyways.

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                          • AngelusA
                            Angelus Member @Angelus
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                            @Angelus said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

                            I now have two gaps to fill.

                            Actually, make that one gap now. Filling the "working stuff out from books" gap was easier than I thought, I just put my Dan Brown hat on and it was done :) The other gap which I used to think was the easier one is actually turning out to be much more difficult, but at least I've still got 2 weeks and a bit to sort it.

                            After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
                            —Tearmoon Empire

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                            • jazzyjeoffJ
                              jazzyjeoff @Angelus
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                              @Angelus Two weeks! Yikes! This is getting real!

                              I am glad that you fixed one of two—good luck on two of two!

                              Instead of finishing the incomplete chapters, I ended up adding a transitional chapter that I did not intend on writing. I am actually really happy with it—it breaks up the tension, gives the main characters a bit more depth —and is cute as hell —so much fun to write!
                              So, still have a bit of work left to do on the last two chapters—but the meat is there—just need to fill in the spaces and make it pretty—I think I can do it—just can’t get sidetracked again.

                              (So happy with person that proofread it—I am so error-prone—it would have taken me years to fix everything without her help.)

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                              • jazzyjeoffJ
                                jazzyjeoff
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                                BTW, what are folks doing about a synopsis? I was trying to get mine under 1000 words—but I also sort of wanted to write a two sentence intro blurb that would get the feel of the book. Is that too much?

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                                • AngelusA
                                  Angelus Member @jazzyjeoff
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                                  @jazzyjeoff, this is what was said before about synposes:

                                  @admin said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

                                  we will leave that decision up to you!
                                  Whatever you think will appeal to the judges more.

                                  Which is pretty vague, but from what I can gather on various "how to submit a novel to a publisher" articles on the web, 500 words seems about right.

                                  After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
                                  —Tearmoon Empire

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                                  • jazzyjeoffJ
                                    jazzyjeoff
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                                    Diving more into silly questions (which is actually a good sign, because it means I feel better about the serious stuff). Do you include a list of chapters? I would think it would make it easier for a reader to keep track of where they are when they take a break from a story. But I don’t know how these things usually work.

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                                    • Lily GardenL
                                      Lily Garden Member @jazzyjeoff
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                                      @jazzyjeoff That's really up to you.
                                      I've read books that have chapters listed and books that don't. It really comes down to the author's taste...

                                      “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                                      • AngelusA
                                        Angelus Member @jazzyjeoff
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                                        @jazzyjeoff, if they allowed ePub submissions it wouldn't matter because it would have a table of contents built in.

                                        Anyway, I'm at 60,000 words now and on the home straight. OK, so I had to summon an averted diabolus ex nihilo ending to do it, but at least that stopped things just fizzling out.

                                        After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
                                        —Tearmoon Empire

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                                        • jazzyjeoffJ
                                          jazzyjeoff @Angelus
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                                          @Angelus
                                          @Lily-Garden
                                          I read the first chapter aloud to someone—and they thought it was too wordy. Taking a second look—it did feel a little draggy—and sort of felt too different from the rest of the book—like I was trying too hard to be the sort of writer I am not—so bye-bye original introduction! The new intro is easier to read—which I guess is what a light novel should be.

                                          Now at 43,574 words (those of us that can’t break the 50K mark count every word, including chapter titles and “the end”!)

                                          So I have a new intro and filled in most of the missing parts, so have a complete story now, not that I have read it on anything that is not my phone.

                                          @Angelus I did not even think about the epub format—I will figure out how to convert from google docs into that—thanks!

                                          I have still have a couple of weeks for polishing and I know that it needs a lot. But I like my story and love my characters!

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                                          • AngelusA
                                            Angelus Member @jazzyjeoff
                                            last edited by Angelus

                                            @jazzyjeoff said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

                                            @Angelus I did not even think about the epub format—I will figure out how to convert from google docs into that—thanks!

                                            I've never used Google docs, I guess it must be able to convert to Word or Acrobat format at least. I think it's a shame you can't actually submit a novel for the competition in ePub though, I mean, that's what they'll need to convert it to anyway if it gets past the second stage.

                                            [EDIT] Well, I thought my novel was more or less complete apart from some tidying up at the end, so I started on a full re-read from the beginning but the plot holes are not so much crawling as leaping out of the woodwork! Good job I still have 2 weeks to fix them!

                                            After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
                                            —Tearmoon Empire

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