[CONTEST OVER] JNC Original Light Novel Contest
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@admin and rubber boots, don't forget the rubber boots. Pink scented latex for me, please. (Damn, there goes my AFF background again)
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@admin said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:
@Angelus here is the easiest way to known whether your work crosses that line: "can this work be sold on Amazon?"
Fyi jk haru was, eventually, banned by Amazon (but only the ebook and not the print and it took years)...
So jk haru is like, right on the line.
So it is okay to reach JK Haru levels of smexy then? What about violence? For example, several volumes of "The Hero Laughs While Walking the Path of Vengeance a Second Time" is available for sale on Amazon right now.
My novel, for example, gets pretty bad with characters being cut up while alive during one subarc and a subarc after. (Might be worse than in Overlord). It is kind of an important situation for my MC since those are the points where they start to change the way they think (the turn from hero to villain) and the point where they give up on humanity in general and start treating humans as resources, but it is fairly cruel.
(I'd like to also note that Japanese anime/manga seem to be regulated more harshly than non-Japanese and non-anime/manga media)
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@Nol_Mimi_Reyalta as far as I know we have never had anything we published get banned on Amazon for violence.
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Now on the third revision of the narrative for By Duty Bound. Which amounts to scraping/massively shifting ~50K words and counting. -
@zwabbit good luck!👍
I still have to write another 30+k words to finish my story grumble grumble grumble“There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky
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How long can the synopsis be?
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@Lily-Garden, I need another 30k too, I guess, which will leave me at 50k. My biggest problem is my obsessive urge to keep on revising things. The more I write, the longer it takes to revise, and so eventually once I reach around 60-65k words all I do is revise rather than write new stuff.
[Edit] And there I was revising an earlier chapter of my novel only to realise it has worrying similarities to Dietlinde's trugged-up antics in this week's Bookworm. But I have three witness to say I wrote it before then (OK, two of them are cats, but still).
After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
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@Angelus And the third was yourself? :P
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@Rinvelt said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:
@admin said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:
@Angelus here is the easiest way to known whether your work crosses that line: "can this work be sold on Amazon?"
Fyi jk haru was, eventually, banned by Amazon (but only the ebook and not the print and it took years)...
So jk haru is like, right on the line.
To be honest, I don't even know why JK Haru and LNs with some NSFW illustrations (or rather, that just show a little skin) are banned from amazon, but on the other hand, amazon allows TONS of HaremLit novels with NSFW covers and explicit sex scenes. It's just...weird. Maybe they don't like Japanese stuff?
Honestly, I'm betting it's a "cartoons and comic books are for kids" situation. An assumption that led to both of those mediums being sensored for decades.
Think of how Boomers and older think of video games as being for kids, but the average age of gamers has gone up. Since the generation that started playing video games has aged.
Amazon probably considers Light Novels and Manga to be teen and young adult. While LitRPG gets a pass because it's never had that demographic as its primary audience.
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@Angelus Everything gets recycled and inspired by something else—your job is to not worry about that and figure out how to make it yours.
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@Lily-Garden How’s is yours going? When writing is going well for me —it’s like all the pieces just start fitting together. But right now I am missing too many pieces for that to happen.
I don't even have an idea of what the last half or third of my story will look like. I have written a lot of dialogue between the three main characters but one or two of my other main characters are barely developed and my secondary characters have almost no dialogue. And I have only really just started my world-building. -
@jazzyjeoff Thanks for asking!
I’ve written the first thousand words, so I’m a bit behind schedule but once I get to the second chapter I expect to get the momentum going cause that’s when the meet-cute with the romantic interest happens and I have a very clear idea of how I want that to go.
I chose to make my narrative more episodic, dividing it into distinct chapters, because I figured it would be easier to write if I can break the book down into chunks.
Once I have the brain-width and can knock out a few thousand more words I expect it to go more smoothly; I have a good idea of where I want the story to go, now I just need enough time to get there
“There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky
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@Lily-Garden, do you write your stories in order, then? I generally start from the outsides and work in towards the middle for a bit (plus I've got a dramatic middle point this time so I've written that as well), but after that it gets kind of random as the different ideas emerge and then I get all embroiled in revising and rearranging the sections to make the story flow better. Which I think makes it a small miracle that I'm at 23k words now and still going reasonably strong.
@jazzyjeoff, thanks, that makes me feel better about it. I've rewritten it anyway now to make it less similar. As for world-building, I got 5k+ words of background down almost before I started the novel proper so I'm thinking of tidying that up and tacking it on the end as a sort of "mini-fanbook".
After reading something captivating, book lovers simply need to talk about it with someone.
—Tearmoon Empire -
@Angelus I've decided to write the story in order so that I can make sure all the pieces flow organically into each other and so that the continuity is maintained. I hadn't actually thought about writing it in a different order, but it's something I'll consider and end up running into a wall.
“There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky
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@Lily-Garden I think a positive for working on several parts at once is that (when it works for me) it can make the story feel more cohesive—things like foreshadowing and jokes that reference other parts of the story can feel more natural because they are written while in the same state of mind. Of course there is no right way—but, as you mentioned, the problem is when you “can’t get there from here” without things feeling forced—I have multiple digital trash bins of stuff I liked but stopped fitting the story.
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I'm not sure if I'll actually get to a finished product to submit but I'm having fun working on a premise for the sort of light novel that I'd like to read.
I've got my initial set-up and am happy with it but have yet to come up with a satisfying conclusion. If I have enough time I'll write out of what I've outlined so far to see if that helps to inspire the rest and otherwise I'll keep working on it in bullet point form.
Good luck to everyone who is participating. I look forward to seeing your entries in due course!
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I've functionally broken up my narrative for Bounded Fate into about four parts and only intend to submit the first part so that I don't end up overrunning the word count limit. That's looking to be around 40K words, which will be enough to set the tone, do a bit of world building, and introduce the audience to the main characters. The supporting characters are going to get somewhat shafted, at least in the current draft, and even one of the main characters is going to be a bit thin in this first part, but my priority is to get this thing done.
The main thing that this draft has to achieve is to make JNC interested enough in it to want to publish, after which there'll presumably be at least some time to incorporate feedback and make additional revisions to smooth out any major rough edges. Optimistically speaking, the premise and narrative in the current state should be interesting enough to at least get past one or two of the rounds. With more polish it might even be able to reach the grand prize, but the issue is again time. The current draft is almost done, I'd expect by this weekend to be wrapping it up and submitting it. After which I can move onto Motive & Means, which I think tonally might elicit a more dynamic response if I can nail the intended character presentation. If I can get those two submissions in before the deadline, I'll be satisfied.
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For me, I've done most of the first 4 chapters (character/setup), (exposition), (ability/world), (action and dilemma) need to finish them over the next week or so...
I always find the start the hardest, so when they are some and polished I can write the rest in a couple of weekends most likely
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I woke up this morning with the first fully formed half of a story that's completely different than the one I was originally writing for the contest in my mind.
Has this ever happened to any of you guys, you start writing one thing and then your brain starts spitting out something that's completely totally dissimilar?
Well I guess I'm going to be trying to write two stories before the contest ends now....
“There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky
