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    • jazzyjeoffJ
      jazzyjeoff @Angelus
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      @Angelus said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

      Still only at 49K words. 2K in 20 days isn't very promising for finishing by the deadline, but my story seems to have gone beyond mid-life lull and entered mid-life crisis mode now! Actually I've written more than 2K because I realised that the part I've been working on would need to fit in with something from a later volume (if it ever gets written) so I wrote a few pages from volume 4 as well just to avoid a possible retcon later on.

      @jazzyjeoff, I used to love my manual typewriter, I gave it away to a charity years ago though otherwise you could have had it :)

      Ha! From where I stand 49k words sounds like bragging!
      (laughing at me —not you, btw)

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        zwabbit Premium Member
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        Right, that's another 20K words tossed into the bin as I rejig Motive & Means a third time. Hopefully I'll be able to recycle at least some of it. Writing mysteries is such a pain...

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        • jazzyjeoffJ
          jazzyjeoff @zwabbit
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          @zwabbit
          20k ouch!
          That's sort of the demon in the back of my mind, as I decide whether to give my villain a full detailed flashback backstory—or just do it with a much shorter exposition—the exposition would be much easier and has less of a chance of breaking up the flow of the story—but a flashback might draw the reader into the world to greater level and make them understand the villain more than “because evil.”

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            Hylebos Premium Member
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            Is there an official, industry accepted definition for word count? I'm writing a python script for my own manuscript to tally up the word counts of chapters and for-author-organization-only sub-chapters for easier tracking than relying on manual calculations within my standard document editor. I just don't know whether hyphenated words should count as multiple words, or (not that my story has them but for the sake of program completeness) whether things like stat blocks which have like [+] buttons rendered with text would count as words.

            I don't plan to get anywhere near the 100k limit so it shouldn't matter insofar as staying within the bounds of the contest, and I imagine y'all would allow for quite a bit of leeway if the stated word count on the entry form differed from your own calculation of the word count when looking at the manuscript but I would still feel embarrassed if my own totals were off :P

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              admin Staff @Hylebos
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              @Hylebos no there isn't without requiring people use a particular software, etc.

              It's not a super strict limit... If by some reasonable word count system it's less than 100K then you should be fine.

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                Parity Premium Member @Hylebos
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                @Hylebos Assuming your [+] are counted, if they are less than one percent of your total words, you'd be hard pressed to see them even come up. For example, 1% of 99k is 990. Which means even 1k short of 100k, you'd still be fine at 99990.

                I've rabbit holed way too much on this and now I have a regex to count freestanding special characters for some reason, (?<!\S)[^\w\s]+(?!\S). If that regex doesn't exceed 1k in your file, you'd be hard pressed to ever see the difference in how words are counted even if [+] was counted.

                As a general rule though, I think a word contains at least one alphanumeric (\w) character. So freestanding special characters probably aren't counted. That's how it works in Google Docs at least.

                Edit: This is a quick regex which gives me the same word count as Google Docs. \w[\w-—']*

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                  jazzyjeoff @Hylebos
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                  • ParityP
                    Parity Premium Member
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                    After another three weeks, up to 40k words so far. Averaging 7.5k words a week now like my goal. Halfway done, though! Probably another six weeks to finish the first version.

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                      petitmelon
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                      I just found out about this and it sounds like so much fun!

                      I have a villainess video game LN-inspired novel I’ve been working on off and on for the past year so this is just the push I need to finish it up! Currently it’s around 40K words.

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                      • jazzyjeoffJ
                        jazzyjeoff
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                        Well, it doesn't look like this is going to get done, though now I have an idea of what 90% of it should look like. My best bet is to just cut my story in half—find a sort of ending point and maybe I could hit 50K words—but given that I still find glaring errors in the fanfic that I wrote a year ago —I am a little apprehensive at the idea.

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                        • Lily GardenL
                          Lily Garden Member @jazzyjeoff
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                          @jazzyjeoff well I think that's still impressive. I have only reached 4k because I keep getting distracted by anime, webcomics, and Vtubers...

                          If I'm super lucky I will have a draft to send in by the deadline...

                          “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                            Parity Premium Member @jazzyjeoff
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                            @jazzyjeoff Perfect is the enemy of success. Whatever you need to do to get the words flowing, do it.

                            @Lily-Garden said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

                            I keep getting distracted by anime, webcomics, and Vtubers...

                            The eternal struggle✊


                            In other news, it looks like the word count minimum has been lowered to 35k?

                            spoiler

                            There are also 77 days until the deadline. So even just 500 words a day should get you there! I think there's still time!

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                              Hylebos Premium Member @Parity
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                              @Parity It always has been 35k if memory serves.

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                                Parity Premium Member @Hylebos
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                                @Hylebos Maybe I have a false memory, but I swear it was 50-100k when I first read the entry requirements in September.

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                                • jazzyjeoffJ
                                  jazzyjeoff @Hylebos
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                                  @Parity

                                  @Hylebos Oh wow!!! 35k —that is new! I might be able to just polish everything up through the first major conflict and call it a day!

                                  “Look, we’re still in business! We’ve still got two bucks left!” — George Bailey

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                                    jazzyjeoff
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                                    Btw, thanks everyone who is still commenting here—it’s been helpful and encouraging!

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                                      Quixotica Premium Member
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                                      Just a bit curious, with over half the contest time gone, approximately how many entries have there been so far?

                                      I used to write a lot in my teens, but I haven't deliberately written a story for probably close to 15 years now (if not longer). This contest has gotten me writing again for the first time in donkey's years, and I have the whole thing planned out, but I'm finding it difficult to write without the right feeling inside. Only at 2.2k words so far (according to Word) but I need to get in that mood properly so I can churn the world inside my mind out onto the pages. It's a bit more difficult since I work the afternoon/evening shift, and I always found my best writing period was in that time frame.

                                      How does everyone else get the feeling going?

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                                      • Lily GardenL
                                        Lily Garden Member @Quixotica
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                                        @QuixoticHorizon I use speech to text on my phone while walking around the neighborhood and just let the story flow off the top of my head. I tried doing the whole outline thing but had trouble getting it going so and shelved that story for now.

                                        Of course with all the new licenses I might run out of time before I finish a draft…

                                        “There’s always a story. It’s all stories, really. The sun coming up every day is a story. Everything’s got a story in it. Change the story, change the world.” ― Terry Pratchett, A Hat Full of Sky

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                                          Parity Premium Member @Quixotica
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                                          @QuixoticHorizon said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

                                          How does everyone else get the feeling going?

                                          I've tried listening to the OST for shows that have similar vibes for the scenes I'm going for. I jammed to kumakuma bear OST for a slice of life chapter for example.

                                          At a more subconscious level, (I'm not sure if this is gonna make sense), but I focus on writing the next sentence, rather than thinking of what I'm writing. I find that helps me keep the words flowing.

                                          @Lily-Garden said in [SUBMISSIONS NOW OPEN!] JNC Original Light Novel Contest:

                                          I tried doing the whole outline thing but had trouble getting it going

                                          I've never found outlining useful, so it's not just you. I try to think of the ending and write towards that, and have found a little more success that way.

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                                            cathfach Premium Member @Quixotica
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                                            @QuixoticHorizon I find the ideas flow when my mind is otherwise unoccupied, like when I’m out walking, or trying to get to sleep. I always keep a notepad by my bed to jot down ideas. (And then I inevitably look at my shorthand in the morning and have no clue what I was thinking... I really wish sleepy-me would write in more detail.)

                                            I end up going through a loop of blasting out a chapter of ~2k words, then going off to do something else for a bit while I plan the next one. It’s a great excuse to nap lots!

                                            In terms of outlining, I’d consider myself part of the wing-it crowd. I do a small amount of world building before starting, and usually have a few plot points in mind, but then I dump my characters into the world, have them behave realistically, and wait to see what happens. Any time I’ve tried to lock myself into a detailed plot before writing, things have gone horribly.

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