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    • BookManiaReaderB
      BookManiaReader Premium Member
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      The anime covers the novels however it skipped two volumes due them not focusing on the two main characters. The novels go into greater detail and VIZ butchered the translation as well as censored artwork and certain scenes in chapters due to problematic themes, which i found as BS.

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      • anime9001A
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        Hey, I'm pretty new here, but just wanted to say that Shana was my gateway into anime and I would really love to be able to read the source material for the series that got me into my favorite hobby of all time! I want to say that I feel that the series is nostalgic enough for a lot of older anime fans to be a successful rescue, but I have to admit there's a chance that's just my own nostalgia/hopefulness talking. I hope JNC will genuinely consider it though.

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          KurisuAlph
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          It was one of the first animes that I watched and it will be always special to me. I wanted to read the light novels but it was impossible (viz discontinued them and nobody bothered to fan translate them after that).
          I even began to study Japanese but I'm not at the level on which I can read as fluently as in English. So I hope someone rescue Shakugan no Shana and bring all the volumes here.

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            mohitkumawat10
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            Pls rescue this series.. it's one of my favourite anime series & really want to read light novel....

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              Starlightdreams
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              I recently just start collecting manga about 4 years ago and I was so sad when I couldn't buy this manga please license Shana

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                Zoran Dabic.ohi9802 Member
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                I too would love to see the rest translated. The existential dread Yuji feels and how he grows out of it along with the rest of the cast was great to see in the anime.

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                • c933103C
                  c933103
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                  While the series have some volumes licensed by Viz for release and translation, according to my understanding on light novel translation industry in other countries, such right shouldn't be unlimited in term of number of volumes, and there should also be other conditions in the contract that allow actions to be taken whenever necessary. With the length of time passed and with JNC's current relationship with Kadokawa group in mind, there should be something JNC could do to help?

                  Unlicensed series of interest: ガルパン 戦車道のよこみち//​勇者である//​艦これ鶴翼//​艦これ陽炎//​​TS転生悪役令嬢は、自分が転生した作品を勘違いした//​無欲の聖女は金にときめく//メインヒロイン面した謎の美少女ごっこがしたい//灼眼のシャナ//メルヘンメドヘン​​//クロス・コネクト//銀色ふわり//扉の外//​나와 호랑이님//​非關英雄

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                  • LegitPancakeL
                    LegitPancake Premium Member @c933103
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                    @c933103 At 26 volumes and a really old anime, not to mention rescue, this series would unfortunately be very uneconomical to license in the English industry at this moment. There is virtually no guarantee that there are 2000 people willing to buy the ebook of every volume, plus the fact that it holds up a translation team for 6+ years, when they could translate dozens of shorter more popular series in that time.

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                      Javahat
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                      Even if It's been a while since I watched Shakugan no Shana but a proper licensed version would make me purchase it and complete it.

                      The story and story/character development is really good on it.

                      (Plus I miss Shana's "Urusai/Shut up" )

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                      • c933103C
                        c933103 @LegitPancake
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                        @legitpancake Is 2000 people buying required for JNC to make a profit from translation? As, in other non-English markets, I have saw lower figures being quoted at breakeven points.

                        Maybe JNC being based in Western countries have higher running cost and labor cost, but in some other markets I have saw figures down to some hundred copies being cited as breakeven point, and I am talking about physical copies

                        And I think, Shana, while being a old series, is still very popular, and most people who watch anime nowadays should at least have heard about its name and familiar with its character image, and would probably gave the anime a watch already as well

                        Not really a good comparison but you can see series like Spice and Wolf or Haruhi from the era with similar popularity are still lingering, with English localization of their novels still continues, which indicates they're profitable

                        Unlicensed series of interest: ガルパン 戦車道のよこみち//​勇者である//​艦これ鶴翼//​艦これ陽炎//​​TS転生悪役令嬢は、自分が転生した作品を勘違いした//​無欲の聖女は金にときめく//メインヒロイン面した謎の美少女ごっこがしたい//灼眼のシャナ//メルヘンメドヘン​​//クロス・コネクト//銀色ふわり//扉の外//​나와 호랑이님//​非關英雄

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                        • c933103C
                          c933103
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                          Maybe it is time to revisit this now, now that quite a number of titles have been rescued and relicensed due to collapse of some other publishers.

                          Unlicensed series of interest: ガルパン 戦車道のよこみち//​勇者である//​艦これ鶴翼//​艦これ陽炎//​​TS転生悪役令嬢は、自分が転生した作品を勘違いした//​無欲の聖女は金にときめく//メインヒロイン面した謎の美少女ごっこがしたい//灼眼のシャナ//メルヘンメドヘン​​//クロス・コネクト//銀色ふわり//扉の外//​나와 호랑이님//​非關英雄

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                            roughroadface51
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                            A curse of Tokyopop, another dream

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                              While it has been storming here, I see neither cats nor dogs coming down from the heavens 😔

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                                roughroadface51
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                                I realize there's less urban fantasy these days like this one or Index or i just dont know anything. If you check MAL stat for the "plan to read" its about 3k account. As someone who got interested to this series decades ago, I'm still hoping this one will given a chance. Older fans still rooting for older series to get in English. Man, i don't even know if we're living in the 21st century. One up for this one.

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                                • myskarosM
                                  myskaros Staff @roughroadface51
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                                  @roughroadface51 said in Shakugan no Shana:

                                  Older fans still rooting for older series to get in English.

                                  The issue is that fans like to say this, but they don't actually buy these series when it does get licensed and translated. JNC and other publishers have licensed various older series with older, seemingly popular anime, and they rarely perform up to expectations.

                                  Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door.

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                                    Asthma_Queen Premium Member
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                                    Would be interested in seeing this translated loved the anime

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                                      c933103 @myskaros
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                                      @myskaros I think more recent ones like in 2000s-early 2010s might perform better than older series, because both the audience are still relatively similar in term of their age, and also because the continued growth of anime-related market in English world mean shows that are closer to now would have more people watched it than series that are more classic but older.

                                      Unlicensed series of interest: ガルパン 戦車道のよこみち//​勇者である//​艦これ鶴翼//​艦これ陽炎//​​TS転生悪役令嬢は、自分が転生した作品を勘違いした//​無欲の聖女は金にときめく//メインヒロイン面した謎の美少女ごっこがしたい//灼眼のシャナ//メルヘンメドヘン​​//クロス・コネクト//銀色ふわり//扉の外//​나와 호랑이님//​非關英雄

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                                      • DoubleMangekyoD
                                        DoubleMangekyo @c933103
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                                        @c933103 said in Shakugan no Shana:

                                        I think more recent ones like in 2000s-early 2010s might perform better

                                        growth of anime-related market in English world mean shows that are closer to now would have more people watched it than series that are more classic but older.

                                        Sorry to break it to you, but even 5 years ago is too old for many buyers.

                                        Here's a bunch of JNC series from your timeframe that are not profitable:
                                        Demon King Daimaou (anime 2010)
                                        Infinite Stratos (anime 2011)
                                        Kokoro Connect (anime 2012)
                                        Outbreak Company (anime 2013)
                                        Invaders of the Rokujouma!? (anime 2014)
                                        Amagi Brilliant Park (anime 2014)
                                        When Supernatural Battles Became Commonplace (anime 2014)
                                        Wild Times With a Fake Fake Princess (no anime)

                                        Full Metal Panic! only sells enough because of the hardcovers.

                                        Another example of poor sales would be A Certain Magical Index (Yen Press). I get the feeling Yen might be the ones to eventually license Shana because they're doing other long Kadokawa series from the 2000s (DxD, DAL, Baccano, DRRR, S&W). I don't see any other publisher getting it tbh.

                                        My light novel counter (EN & JP) for series published by Yen On / JNC / Seven Seas

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                                          c933103 @DoubleMangekyo
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                                          @DoubleMangekyo
                                          Eh first 2010-2014 is about 9-13 years ago already

                                          And as an anime isn't Infinite Stratos the only one in the list that maintain popularity beyond the season they air? Rokujouma maybe? And IS suffered from author relationship with publisher and illustrator.

                                          Unlicensed series of interest: ガルパン 戦車道のよこみち//​勇者である//​艦これ鶴翼//​艦これ陽炎//​​TS転生悪役令嬢は、自分が転生した作品を勘違いした//​無欲の聖女は金にときめく//メインヒロイン面した謎の美少女ごっこがしたい//灼眼のシャナ//メルヘンメドヘン​​//クロス・コネクト//銀色ふわり//扉の外//​나와 호랑이님//​非關英雄

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                                            GeorgeMTO @c933103
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                                            @c933103 said in Shakugan no Shana:

                                            Eh first 2010-2014 is about 9-13 years ago already

                                            They are now, but most of them were much closer to 5 years ago when the series were first licensed by JNC.

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