Right, I forgot the epilogue of 3.4! Thanks for the explanation!

My suggestion for formatting with your given goals in mind would be something like this:

Sylvester, Archduke
Aub Ehrenfest VII

or

Sylvester (Archduke)
Aub Ehrenfest VII

Either of those would look better when the given name is unknown.

??? (Baron)
Giebe Blon

Also you could consider flipping the order of title and name that would help with the situation that a "bubble" would start with ??? less frequently.

Giebe Blon
??? (Baron)

Oh, also Joisontak is missing his titles.

@c-ray it’s too late to call for consistency when you yourself point out that there’s any number of inconsistencies already. I mean, I’m pretty sure the Germanic spelling of Rozemyne herself would actually be Rosemein (but eh, I flunked my German GCSE decades ago and always have to picture “spiegelei” to remember which way around the ‘i’ and the ‘e’ go).

@shiroi-hane that's the viewty of Bewkworm

@thegrimlich said in Fancrack: FGO/Bookworm crossover:

@alfonso_rd_36 said in Fancrack: FGO/Bookworm crossover:

Wait... Did DKF knew about Mercy?

Only if he's played Overwatch before </sarcasm>

Ok, I drove a pandanus to that one

@shiroi-hane she has 2 second memory. She forgot the book after she left the market place :D

I think the conclusion I have come to is that, as a newly constructed name, it's pronounced however you want it to be pronounced. You could say I'm responsible for the name's creation, being the one to put the letters together in English for the first time, but it wouldn't be very meaningful for me to try to be like "It's objectively pronounced Ro↑ze ↓myne↑ and anyone who pronounces it otherwise is wrong." Likewise, it's not very meaningful to look to the Japanese, because Japanese names are almost universally pronounced differently from English names, and, for example, you wouldn't really learn much about how to pronounce Lutz or Gunther by looking at Ruttsu or Gyunta. Rozemyne is no different. The anime dub for Season 3 will no doubt have to dub Rozemyne (though of course they will have it written as Rosemain, or Rozemain at best). However, in that case it will be the dub director arbitrarily making a decision. There's no transcendental correctness or truth to the pronunciation that will be given by that - he is, just like me, just another dude.

In which case, I think only one conclusion can be made: There is no pronunciation for Rozemyne beyond what you think it is. It's a made-up name and English has inconsistent pronunciation rules for letters. The author can't give this psuedo-English name an objectively correct pronunciation, I can't give it an objectively correct pronunciation, and the dub director can't give it an objectively correct pronunciation.

A conclusion for Rozemyne's pronunciation can only possibly form through time and trends - through decades of people reading Rozemyne, pronouncing Rozemyne, and so on. I imagine that, much like names IRL, there will be different regions where some people pronounce it one way and other regions where some people pronounce it another way (much like the infamous "New York Mario"), but that's just how it goes. This will be a conclusion founded in oral history, rather than me arbitrarily deciding it must be pronounced one way, or anything arbitrary like that. Of course, I imagine the dub director's decision will have HUGE influence, as people mimic what they hear, but it only become meaningful through the following decades of use, rather than the decision itself.

tl;dr Ask me again in 30 years

@quof Two things, since I seem to be the cause of this kerfuffle.

If Gustav's position as merchant guild guildmaster was supposed to formally place him in an officially superior position to the other guild heads, I don't think that's ever been explicitly conveyed. While there were hints that he might hold de facto power over them due to the merchant guild's control of issuing the guild cards, I've never seen any indication that he's capable of issuing outright orders or the like to them. After all, both the parchment and the ink guilds have shown they can circumvent him in various ways if need be.

In the exchange where I got confused, I'm of the position that that's a consequence of how the Japanese tends to use a person's title in place of their names, wherein in a narrative originally written in English, we would have just used their name. While it's fine for Myne to have literally not known Ferdinand's name for however long that was and kept calling him as High Priest both internally and externally, or for her to in general refer to people by title instead of name, Myne's quite clearly carrying on with the conventions Urano was more comfortable with, it feels substantially more awkward for the people native to the Bookverse to do likewise, as well for the third person narrative that is not from Myne's perspective to similarly be constrained. Surely we're not being led to believe that Ingo, a working adult, has no idea what the name of the merchant guild guildmaster is? And in the case of people whose names we already do know, usage of that name in place of the title would if nothing else allow for a bit greater variety in prose, instead of seeing "guildmaster" or etc repeated constantly.

In P2v4, after Sly sending his uncle to prison, he says “Sheesh, I’m beat. I never want to put any of my family on trial again.” and after 5 volumes later, he put his son on a trial :D That was nice. Im waiting for his next trial :D

@pcj said in Future Relationship Speculations:

@rsog412 well, it is April 1st where I live right now.

I don't ever entertain the idea of it actually happening, but it ocurred to me that he is the one she seems to share the most mutual understanding with of the people we've been introduced to so far. She was absolutely thrilled by the idea of getting trained by him, even if it meant near death experiences, because they have similar fighting styles and she wants the strength. And she's the only one that was. Everyone else was terrified of him.

But I do expect the most that comes of it is she's his star pupil in the training classes.

Well he does like his Granddaughter a lot.

He's got plenty of Grandsons available to make Angelica into another Granddaughter.

@quof That's interesting, definitely for the reason @zwabbit mentions which is so on-point it hurts.

But for me it's also because this means I badly interpreted the 4th-wall breaking as far more reserved (not quite so blatant and common) than what you're describing. I'm going to have to step back and reassess this, because I realized that I really wasn't noticing it as much** -- and the only conclusion I can come up with currently is that I guess that the disappointment over this particular plot point caused me to internalize the end-of-chapter author comments in a different way than normal; which is to say, I noticed them at all, when I generally just skip them entirely.

** (I just checked several series that I've followed in WN form, and sure enough it was far more common than I had recognized it to be, meaning that I really was just glossing over it.)

@pcj said in [CORRECTIONS]-Bookworm Part 3 Vol 2:

Just to point out, this volume already published, so someone is emailing that to support, right?

I send directly to Quof. Also, I think kier is monitoring those older topics and picking up those fixes since I see him doing "like" of those posts in older topics not only in the current CORRECTION topic.

@alfonso_rd_36 said in The Name of Rozemyne:

@shiny might as well link to here...

A link is fine too.

One thing the author mentioned in a tweet thread should help a lot ( https://twitter.com/miyakazuki01/status/1195137971684425730 ): when Urano!Myne was dying of the Devouring heat, she stayed alive by reaching out to Lutz/her family for strength, but when original!Myne was dying, she reached out to Urano's memories, because she wanted to be healthy like she was in the memories. She abandoned herself and entrusted everything to the memories, which proceeded to take over - the author describes it as her "obtaining Urano's personality and memories". But since it was her body that was sick, not her mind, it didn't actually help her get healthy in the end. She became Urano, but she she was still sick.

Personally speaking, especially with the above context in mind, I parse events somewhat more on the "Possession Theory" side of things. There's a lot of emphasis on how original!Myne had almost no life experience or even a strong sense of self due to how much she was bedridden, and that Urano's memories were so overwhelming in quantity that original!Myne couldn't hope to remain herself with them. The tweet thread I mentioned also notes that "under normal circumstances, Myne would have grown as a person and developed her own personality over time, (but instead she became Urano)," which seems to me to indicate that this wasn't how Myne would have grown on her own, and instead she just had Urano's personality implanted into her, as was mentioned.

I thus find myself disagreeing with the nuance of some of the takes here. I think that while some of original!Myne is definitely inside of neo!Myne, I still view the "combination" of them as so overwhelmingly Urano that the original!Myne aspects are a bit inconsequential. Her personality is almost entirely intact from before her reincarnation (the fanbook points towards the fact her similarities to Gunther are a coincidence!), she's mentally an adult, and little direct influence from original!Myne can be seen, which makes sense given that original!Myne abandoned herself to consciously become Myne. I think there's a lot of value that can be derived from understanding that they have the same soul, in particular regarding her parents loving her despite Urano's takeover, but I don't really think one should go too far with this and view neo!Myne's personality/beliefs/etc as too much of a fusion of original!Myne and Urano - the story really goes out of its way to emphasize that original!Myne gives up and Urano's personality takes over almost entirely, I think, with a number of references to neo!Myne being nothing like old Myne. I think it's going in the wrong direction to try to craft theories about Urano's memories somehow bringing out original!Myne's latent personality, which has not been indicated in the story and goes against what the author has said, from what I can tell.

Anyway that's my perspective. Everyone is certainly free to interpret this in their own way. Hopefully the additional information the author provided in the tweet makes some of this more clear.

@Pinkrose064 - I don't have the JP LN for this volume, but in the WN, it's just 「……まずい」 ("This is awful!" / "Oh no!") which has similar meaning.

"To think they would use that of all things," seems to me that it adds the implication that Ferdinand knows exactly what poison they used, and also that the specific poison they used was somehow more unsavory than other poisons, rather than just being bad that she was poisoned at all.

The first of those implications is definitely a true statement - Ferdinand does know what poison was used and how to treat it, given that he supplies an antidote shortly afterward. The second implication might be unintentional, as I know a bunch of people in the discussion thread were speculating about what the poison was and why it was so bad, which might lead to misplaced expectations if there isn't a reveal coming that will explain what the poison is.

Q&A released today in today's Fanbook 1 Part 1 contains some questions and answers regarding this subject.

Reported in Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonzukiNoGekokujou/comments/ly9ylr/this_line_doesnt_make_sense_since_karstedt_has/

Preparing for the Baptism Ceremony

Lamprecht was sixteen years old and had Karstedt’s reddish-brown hair, plus his bright-brown eyes.
まだ成長期なのだろうか、十六歳のランプレヒトはカルステッド譲りの赤茶の髪に明るい茶色の瞳だ。

Karstedt has blue eyes.

It was interpreted to mean:
カルステッド譲りの(赤茶の髪に明るい茶色の瞳だ)。
But actually it is:
(カルステッド譲りの赤茶の髪)に明るい茶色の瞳だ。

So, in English, it would be less prone to interpretation if rearranged to something like:

Lamprecht was sixteen years old and had bright-brown eyes with Karstedt’s reddish-brown hair.

@GeorgeMTO said in Telling Time in Ehrenfest:

the map in the books (also linked in the above linked primer) has Ehrenfest duchy adjacent to the Country Border Gate. While the other side of it isn't labelled, if it's not a country it's at least "foreign territory". I guess the fact that mana is necessary for farmland to continue, does mean it could simply be empty territory though.

It could be a floating country and beyond the gate is sky. It could be a dimension of it's own and the gates are like the teleportation circles. With the indications the country as a whole appears to be perfect circle it probably isn't a normal country with typical borders.

@Gamen said in Ascendance of a Bookworm Pt 2 Vol 1 (Manga) Discussion:

And Ferdinand's other attendants with sweat drops, presumably knowing the quarter's reputation.

I couldn't decide on that one myself... it's hard to tell if they are put off because they do actually know or if it's simply the idea of giving a commoner girl the quarters in the first place. I got the impression that the former director's proclivities weren't widely known - largely because someone that values intel the way Ferd does didn't seem to know - but you could very well be right.

In fact, as I'm thinking about it... if I didn't know what the real reason behind what he's doing was, then assuming they are just reacting to a commoner being rewarded in some way would be perfectly natural. It's great camouflage.

Either way, pulling in very subtle bits that we won't know about (if we haven't read the novels) for quite awhile into the scene in a way that pops out to anyone that does know already... just goes to show how well planned the manga is, to say nothing of the actual artwork itself.